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	<title>Comments on: UPDATED: Lakewood Askan: What Needs To Be Done With The Crime (UPDATE On Lakewood Assault)</title>
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		<title>By: sane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently in Lakewood.  I was surprised at how large, showy and ostentatious the homes are getting.  It certainly is inconsitent with R. Aharon&#039;s vision of Lakewood.  Perhaps we are feeling too comfortable.  Maybe tone down the show of materialism a bit, so we do not need  any more reminders of Galus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently in Lakewood.  I was surprised at how large, showy and ostentatious the homes are getting.  It certainly is inconsitent with R. Aharon&#8217;s vision of Lakewood.  Perhaps we are feeling too comfortable.  Maybe tone down the show of materialism a bit, so we do not need  any more reminders of Galus.</p>
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		<title>By: undercover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[undercover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know where the Choleh is? Which Hospital? Which Room? When can we visit him?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know where the Choleh is? Which Hospital? Which Room? When can we visit him?</p>
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		<title>By: jack1435</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jack1435]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does one ever think of blaming the mailman for delivering the bills that upset us?
Blaming the assault of  a Lakewood Cheder Rebbe on crime, complaining about police, etc. is missing the point!
As ma’aminim bnei ma’aminim, we know that it’s a message to us from Hashem. What is the message? Possibly this: Our streets are unsafe! Rav Shach zt”l once told someone who questioned the many car accidents that the spiritual pritzus is making the streets unsafe.
Please make one doable kabbalah in the area of tznius as a z’chus for a refua shleima bimhaira for Mordechai Shmuel ben Miriam.
Thank You
A Relative.

P.S. Your tefilos are still very much needed and appreciated.
Thank You]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does one ever think of blaming the mailman for delivering the bills that upset us?<br />
Blaming the assault of  a Lakewood Cheder Rebbe on crime, complaining about police, etc. is missing the point!<br />
As ma’aminim bnei ma’aminim, we know that it’s a message to us from Hashem. What is the message? Possibly this: Our streets are unsafe! Rav Shach zt”l once told someone who questioned the many car accidents that the spiritual pritzus is making the streets unsafe.<br />
Please make one doable kabbalah in the area of tznius as a z’chus for a refua shleima bimhaira for Mordechai Shmuel ben Miriam.<br />
Thank You<br />
A Relative.</p>
<p>P.S. Your tefilos are still very much needed and appreciated.<br />
Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: lakewood maven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lakewood maven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what about a reward for finding the guy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about a reward for finding the guy</p>
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		<title>By: camden mayor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[camden mayor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to sound like a real golus mentality(Who said that is bad) But we all should understand that even though we might be right and win the battle but we are going to lose the war. Anyone in Lakewood should know how much friction is boiling beneath the surface they are looking for anything to blaME blame us terrible people for example.. they are knocking on my door to buy my house....They own this town......they attacked a teen&#039;honor student&#039; while walking in someones backyard...they keep to themselves and are obnoxious... in their eyes its feeling left out an losing this town to us. The truth is we do have many orthodox members on many boards. What would be so wrong if the Board of Education or other boards would have more of them on it. Howell did a fine job on clearing up their mess or at least getting a grip on the situation of the education unlike here which a lot of our RE taxes goes to waste on it. If you put some of them on the board would they just totally lose it I don&#039;t think it could be any worse than it is now. Let them be on these boards its not good for us. (The other factor is many &#039;higher up in the community need to get their hand in the treasure chest&#039; and get their share of the pot and need us on those boards. Example Master plan for the new zoning...) I still dont understand how this whole town could let the RE taxes be raised like they have been and no one saying anything. We have to realize and acknowledge others in this town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to sound like a real golus mentality(Who said that is bad) But we all should understand that even though we might be right and win the battle but we are going to lose the war. Anyone in Lakewood should know how much friction is boiling beneath the surface they are looking for anything to blaME blame us terrible people for example.. they are knocking on my door to buy my house&#8230;.They own this town&#8230;&#8230;they attacked a teen&#8217;honor student&#8217; while walking in someones backyard&#8230;they keep to themselves and are obnoxious&#8230; in their eyes its feeling left out an losing this town to us. The truth is we do have many orthodox members on many boards. What would be so wrong if the Board of Education or other boards would have more of them on it. Howell did a fine job on clearing up their mess or at least getting a grip on the situation of the education unlike here which a lot of our RE taxes goes to waste on it. If you put some of them on the board would they just totally lose it I don&#8217;t think it could be any worse than it is now. Let them be on these boards its not good for us. (The other factor is many &#8216;higher up in the community need to get their hand in the treasure chest&#8217; and get their share of the pot and need us on those boards. Example Master plan for the new zoning&#8230;) I still dont understand how this whole town could let the RE taxes be raised like they have been and no one saying anything. We have to realize and acknowledge others in this town.</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe Pipik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moshe Pipik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear YW
I read this post with mixed emotions. I wondered to myself, Who is this Askan you are quoting? Why does he hide behind a cloak of anonymity? Isn&#039;t this the same web site that spewed about all the people complaining to the point that you closed the comments? In fact I paste your words here:

 &quot;You are right. The Vaad is public, and people have the right to question what they do. But read my next sentence C-L-E-A-R-L-Y: PEOPLE WHO ARE HIDING BEHIND A FICTICIUOS SCREEN-NAME, FEEL THAT THEY CAN MOUTH-OFF IN ANY WAY THEY FEEL.

Let them get off the Internet, use their REAL names, and start questioning the Vaad. Since EVERYONE hates them, it should be real easy to get a few thousand signatures on a petition. Call them to a public meeting and bombard them with questions. Make them answer your complaints.

Understand? Good.

This comment section is CLOSED.&quot; (end of quote)

Why the hypocrisy? Let your askan get off the internet stand in front of the yeshivah and make his feelings known.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear YW<br />
I read this post with mixed emotions. I wondered to myself, Who is this Askan you are quoting? Why does he hide behind a cloak of anonymity? Isn&#8217;t this the same web site that spewed about all the people complaining to the point that you closed the comments? In fact I paste your words here:</p>
<p> &#8220;You are right. The Vaad is public, and people have the right to question what they do. But read my next sentence C-L-E-A-R-L-Y: PEOPLE WHO ARE HIDING BEHIND A FICTICIUOS SCREEN-NAME, FEEL THAT THEY CAN MOUTH-OFF IN ANY WAY THEY FEEL.</p>
<p>Let them get off the Internet, use their REAL names, and start questioning the Vaad. Since EVERYONE hates them, it should be real easy to get a few thousand signatures on a petition. Call them to a public meeting and bombard them with questions. Make them answer your complaints.</p>
<p>Understand? Good.</p>
<p>This comment section is CLOSED.&#8221; (end of quote)</p>
<p>Why the hypocrisy? Let your askan get off the internet stand in front of the yeshivah and make his feelings known.</p>
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		<title>By: LAKEWOOD LANLORD</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LAKEWOOD LANLORD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#109  The Lakewood landlords, should at least do criminal background check&#039;s on all tenants and write an eviction clause into all future leases should the tenants be involved in crime. I have used a great local frum company called Tenant Safe
At 732-942-1331 this is what all the big landlords are doing today as standard practice even in the best neighborhoods. Why rent to trouble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#109  The Lakewood landlords, should at least do criminal background check&#8217;s on all tenants and write an eviction clause into all future leases should the tenants be involved in crime. I have used a great local frum company called Tenant Safe<br />
At 732-942-1331 this is what all the big landlords are doing today as standard practice even in the best neighborhoods. Why rent to trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: glatkeit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glatkeit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are many issues brought up here and they are &quot;farmished&quot; and confusing. concerns and questions about halacha; bad tenants in a good neighboard, yidishe homes homes built in proximity to bad areas, bad tenants in general that bring the level of safety down in a town, rich baal habos outbiding poor lakewood kolel yungerman (i do not encourage it), etc... those are halacha shailos that EVERYONE has to abide to psak of a competent rov and it cann&#039;t be a subject of discussion among people not qualified to pasken. anyone that acts against the Torah because they are &quot;influencial&quot; will get a bill after 120 r&quot;l. 
when i read about people lashing the askonim-machers... who are they talking about? those that drive the skulener rebbe shlita when he comes and get their pictures in the lakewood circular publications? or people that host the gedolim when they come to lakewood? or people that &quot;make sure&quot; that when moreinu R&#039; AL Shteinaman shlita comes to lakewood, that &quot;everything&quot; is mesudar? why do they bother you? nebach, they wait for long periods of time to get sipuk. however, speaking about askonim that have real jobs in lakewood township, those are devoted people that HELP the klal (not only with traffic issues), i happen to know many stories that they really helped. some run out in the middle of the night(s)as a Hatzala member.speaking about the Vaad with such frustraton... why do they bother you? NOBODY pays attention to them. their phone lines never ring. they stopped coming to yeshiva&#039;s dining room to promote candidates, years ago. since the askan lshem hatzibur R&#039; shenkolefsky left, who votes for their endorsments?
again, the only issue is the halachos, however it can not be paskend from the &quot;libi omer li&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are many issues brought up here and they are &#8220;farmished&#8221; and confusing. concerns and questions about halacha; bad tenants in a good neighboard, yidishe homes homes built in proximity to bad areas, bad tenants in general that bring the level of safety down in a town, rich baal habos outbiding poor lakewood kolel yungerman (i do not encourage it), etc&#8230; those are halacha shailos that EVERYONE has to abide to psak of a competent rov and it cann&#8217;t be a subject of discussion among people not qualified to pasken. anyone that acts against the Torah because they are &#8220;influencial&#8221; will get a bill after 120 r&#8221;l.<br />
when i read about people lashing the askonim-machers&#8230; who are they talking about? those that drive the skulener rebbe shlita when he comes and get their pictures in the lakewood circular publications? or people that host the gedolim when they come to lakewood? or people that &#8220;make sure&#8221; that when moreinu R&#8217; AL Shteinaman shlita comes to lakewood, that &#8220;everything&#8221; is mesudar? why do they bother you? nebach, they wait for long periods of time to get sipuk. however, speaking about askonim that have real jobs in lakewood township, those are devoted people that HELP the klal (not only with traffic issues), i happen to know many stories that they really helped. some run out in the middle of the night(s)as a Hatzala member.speaking about the Vaad with such frustraton&#8230; why do they bother you? NOBODY pays attention to them. their phone lines never ring. they stopped coming to yeshiva&#8217;s dining room to promote candidates, years ago. since the askan lshem hatzibur R&#8217; shenkolefsky left, who votes for their endorsments?<br />
again, the only issue is the halachos, however it can not be paskend from the &#8220;libi omer li&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: wrybouturself</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wrybouturself]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[reb nisht ahe nisht aher, refuah shleima, say some tehillim!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reb nisht ahe nisht aher, refuah shleima, say some tehillim!!</p>
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		<title>By: lakewood maven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lakewood maven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe some j.d.l. action]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe some j.d.l. action</p>
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