Comments on: Out Of The Mailbag – To YW Editor (Getting Squished In The Bagel-Store) http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:49:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.7.9 By: ultrajew http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72763 Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:47:26 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72763 @#29 If someone handed me a card telling me to be more tznius I would probably slap them. How’s that for negiya.

Now that is one of the most Torahdik reactions possible in your case. In fact, Chazal even have a special term for it. It’s called… oh yeah, Aveirah Gorreres Aveirah.

]]> By: derech hayashar http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72607 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:53:21 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72607 I refuse to believe that a frum person, man or woman, can think that it’s OK or “not assur” to bump and squish people from the opposite gender in a public place. Men and women should be shopping in different stores. The comment that they should have separate lines is a compromise in tzniyus. Do you have separate lines at a chasane? In shul chas v’shalom? Tzniyus is more important than convenience. Lack of tzniyus is the number one problem today.

]]> By: Moshe Kapora http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72507 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:23:50 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72507 Chevra,

Why is this even an issue? Pushing? Shoving? Bagel stores? Pizza shops? Grocery stores?

After paying what I can of the ever-increasing yeshiva tuition, marrying-off a couple of kids (B”H), having the price of mitzvah items (such as shmura matzoh) and home-heating energy increase astronomically (I consider none of the above to be luxury items), having savings decimated due to the economic downturn, etc., who has any money left over for food (be it from a bagel store, pizza shop, or grocery store)? Where are all of these Yeshivishe people who have money for food coming from?

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As for the comment of “Proud Jew” (#14), “Sorry to tell u you sound like a real nut case… Want it or not OUR HOLY TORAH GAVE US SOME RESTRICTIONS,” I humbly suggest that calling another Jew “a real nut case” and screaming by using all caps in a semi-public forum – where some may actually know the person’s true identity – may be more frowned upon by the Torah than accidentally bumping into another person while on a shopping excursion; especially if one harbors ill will towards the other just for having a different opinion of the situation.

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Finally, I wholeheartedly agree with those out-of-towners who correctly (in my estimation) discern that many frummies in the NYC area are not really part of the “real world,” but, rather, live in a world unto itself replete with its own sets of rules, values, and priorities. Fortunately, many of them – but not all – do tend to coincide with what Torah hashkofo prescribes.

-MK

]]> By: bad4shidduchim http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72498 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:57:42 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72498 I totally agree. It’s not assur to be shoved!

We need our community to be better educated in halacha so they don’t start more crazy crusades against things that are halachically kosher.

]]> By: yitzy99 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72497 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:57:19 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72497 To guard against such chance enocunters, I only enter stores that don’t look crowded. The train is another issue. I only travel none rush hours.

]]> By: Who said what http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72488 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:41:41 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72488 lgbg. execellent article on modesty enough with the bagelnosh stories let’s roll out lipa hold on did someone say move out of town were we have bigger parking lots or stores yikes I just moved to lkwd very disappointed oy omg this guy just side swiped my car. alright I thought it was a car its a carriage or wagon

]]> By: lkwdbubby http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72485 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:35:55 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72485 Firstly, you say that there is no negia issue as the bumping into each other was totally unintended. That may be the case for the woman who got pushed to the side but the man who pushing her away in order to cut the line definitly intended to push his way into line, which means that the intention was there. Also, sometimes there guys are so aggressive that people get hurt in the shuffle. It is time for people to realize all the problems that happen when they do something that seems as inncent as cuttingin line. Remember, you are also giving Bnei Torah a bad name when you do this as people say ‘look what Bnei Torah do”

]]> By: mashgiachruchni http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72477 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:01:54 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72477 Pleassshhe miss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get your halacha straight,before you go off on your religious crusade.In addition,get out of the big city,if you can’t live crowded!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: 08701lakewood http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72475 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:01:25 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72475 I just BUMPED into LIPA in BAGEL NOSH, we decided this should be the next Kol Koreh intuitive – separate bagel stores!

]]> By: lkwdfellow http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/14680/out-of-the-mailbag-to-yw-editor-getting-squished-in-the-bagel-store.html#comment-72472 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:46:25 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=14680#comment-72472 This is the best letter written to YW yet! I have been screaming about this crisis for years! Why can’t I order & pay for my bagels without getting knocked around by some overzealous ladies with their lattes, etc.? Also, why is it more in bagel stores & pizza shops than groceries???

Hopfully, this crisis will soon be resolved because it is really serious!!!

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