Comments on: Out Of The Mailbag – To YW Editor (Big Event Fund, Or Rabbeyim Fund?)

By: Concerned Yid

Concerned Yid — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:45:23 +0000

Rebbeim making more money….they are totally deserve it…However, not at the expense of hard earning families.

Let’s face it..chinnuch is not the same it used to be.. It has become a business where administrators are making 6 figures, rebbiem are getting great perks..Parsonage..and having as many babies as they could, while struggling earning familes limit their sizes of families to pay tuition through the roof..I think rebbie’s should pay on the same scale that these hard working families do.

Let the “grossa” fundraisers use that money towards their Grossa salaries once operating budgets are cleared…Let rebbiem tutor, write books, get degrees in counseling, or even….fundraise??? get with it people Yeshiva has turned into a business with executives (deans and admins) eating up the tuition dollars as they claim parsonage, and get breaks in the community and support their 6-7 children…!!

By: Here4U

Here4U — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:58:08 +0000

Chulent for Chulenteater. Chulenteater is saying what many of you chose not to face. Yiyasher koach ! I do not mean to be presumptious but rosh yeshivas are overpaid precisely because they only teach Torah rather than lead us. If leaders were always worthy of being leaders and “gedolim” are untouchable, why would Hakodosh Baruch Hu provide a mitzvah of “vne’elam davar m’enai h’kahal”. Insofar as comments on al chets for Chulenteater,we can find one al chet for everyone including the “derech hayasher” poster. Only the beis din shel ma’alah will judge if Chulenteater is wrong. The ziknei h’edah were and remain responsible to us and to G-d for their communal actions or inactions. No, we must not obey all the gedolim without question because they do err in their judgement as did our Avos and Imahos. How many thousands of Jews died in Auwshvitz (my grandparents included z”tl) because Gedolim dictated that nothing be done. It is not an aveirah to expose the shortcommings of “gedolim” provided they are not shamed. A true Gadol leads by example, is not afraid to accept mussar and leaves the beis medrash to publically defend Jews and Jewish interests. I have known few gedolim. B’ahavat Yisrael. Chazak ubaruch to all.

By: tzippi

tzippi — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:56:02 +0000

62, I don’t know if my earlier comment got in.
Personally I never heard of this 5 year psak. You could say, correctly, that it’s because as a woman I don’t read teshuvos, etc., but since this has a direct impact, I certainly should have been taught this.

Was this just hora’as sha’ah? Does it still apply? I’m surprised that my father’s rosh yeshiva let him go to work as early as he did in the late 50s. (And believe me, when the Rosh Yeshiva zt”l told him to jump, he did.)

And if it still applies, unfortunately we can’t, at the moment make sure our kids stay that long. It’s not a matter of more mesirus nefesh on our part. We’re still living with mesirus nefesh from our 4, unsupported years in kollel. (Not that we regret a nanosecond. And Hashem runs the world, people get laid off etc and are unemployed for long periods of time and can still be in difficult situations even without having spent time in kollel, etc.)

By: IICHMEIN535

IICHMEIN535 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:01:07 +0000

Derech Hayashar finally somone who understands yiddishkeit the way yidden lived it before the 20 and 21st centuries. kol hakavod to you. Don’t give up your fight for the Torah lifestyles to these modernists!!!

By: cowdoc

cowdoc — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:50:09 +0000

#68

Thank you for setting my priorities straight. I though I was doing some good by taking care of cows and sheep so people could have safe, reasonably priced milk and meat to eat.

I would probably be doing more good sitting in a bet medrash for 10 hours daily and absorbing at most one hour’s worth of content.

P.S. Does it not seem unusual that most if not all of Reb Moshe’s progeny have university degrees?

By: chulenteater

chulenteater — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:26:39 +0000

#79 you argu you scream yet you have not answered me with a substantive claim.
P.S. If you so strongly believe in your Hashkofas why are you wasting your time on the internet. I’m sure you know the Gedolim assured it.

By: derech hayashar

derech hayashar — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:36:53 +0000

To # 75, 76.
You are correct, a Jew is not entitled to a false hashkafah, so I suggest that you get yourself a proper one. You are obviously angry , please calm down. Your attack on roshei yeshivas (high salaries?)is blasphemous, there is an al chet for that as you must know. Your snide remark about wealthy people who learn only (spoiled brats) is out of line. You did not even relate to the opinion of the gedoilim, who we must obey without question. They pasken that learning is the only permissible activity, no half and half. Your attitude is quite prevalent , no doubt , and represents the we-listen-to-the-gedoilim-when-it’s-convenient hashkafah. Puts on a good show, but it’s low on content.

By: baruchgershom

baruchgershom — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:26:28 +0000

Pashuteh Yid: Thank you for telling the story of Shimon bar Yochai. I have often argued that the debates the frum world has today existed in Shimon’s day, too, especially in his debates with R. Yishmael, who argued that it was possible to learn Torah and a living also. Based on Hashem’s rebuke of R. Shimon, one would think that the issue would be dead by now.

But I recall a conversation more than 10 years ago between two old friends of mine who were both at Ner Israel together. One of whom is now a yesiva rov and voiced his opinion that those who are frum and dedicate themselves to Torah should wall themselves away from those who are more modern, and perhaps less observant. The other friend was Amram Feldman, zt’l, the son of Rabbi Emanuel Feldman, shlita, and the nephew of Rav Aharon Feldman, shlita (the Kollel at the Yeshiva of Greater Washington is named in Amram’s memory). His reply was forceful: “Do you remember all of the dedication plaques at Ner Israel honoring the people who helped build the yeshiva? Do you think any of them, especially those from back in the early years, was a shomer Shabbos? Of course not! Yet, because we did not close off ourselves from them back then, we were able to attend yeshiva and study Torah. Without them, would we have had the same opportunities?”

By: chulenteater

chulenteater — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:34:56 +0000

#68 “You are entitled to your hashkafah, but it is a false one”, since when are jews entitled to false Hashkafos. You obviously said that statement to give, in your mind, yourself a moral high ground. Maybe, tou have something better to do in your life than pump up your own ego.

By: chulenteater

chulenteater — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:26:59 +0000

#68 your ignorance is only surpassed by your ignorance. I agree that earners should support learners. But why can’t the learner be an earner. the same way a person needs to sleep and eat to survive, he needs to make a parnossa. Of course the main thing is learning but you could work too. It very easy for those roshei Yeshivah with high salaries or the spoiled brats who are supported from all sides to tell us to have bitachon. Just try telling them that, next time you have to pay tuition try telling the rosh yeshivah, don’t worry about tuittion, have bitachon. Let’s see what they answer.