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	<title>Comments on: Out Of The Mailbag &#8211; To YW Editor (Purim-Tzedakah Request)</title>
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		<title>By: yitzy99</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yitzy99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey - theshmoozer:
              That&#039;s a riot.
        It amazes me that some people go into conniptions about seeing a woman&#039;s picture in the Jewish Press but fail to see the long-term effects of sending kids out half-drunk in limos collecting money. Then we wonder where our  future embezzlers come from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; theshmoozer:<br />
              That&#8217;s a riot.<br />
        It amazes me that some people go into conniptions about seeing a woman&#8217;s picture in the Jewish Press but fail to see the long-term effects of sending kids out half-drunk in limos collecting money. Then we wonder where our  future embezzlers come from.</p>
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		<title>By: theshmoozer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yitz-99. I have news for you, a young neighbor of mine came to my house collecting and after repeatedly asking him who he was collecting for (no pushka, no pamphlet, nothing, and his saying &quot;mir&quot; was rather suspicious in that he attends a well know chassidishe yeshiva, not &quot;the mir&quot;) he finally said, ME!. He figured people are handing out money so he may as well get some for himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yitz-99. I have news for you, a young neighbor of mine came to my house collecting and after repeatedly asking him who he was collecting for (no pushka, no pamphlet, nothing, and his saying &#8220;mir&#8221; was rather suspicious in that he attends a well know chassidishe yeshiva, not &#8220;the mir&#8221;) he finally said, ME!. He figured people are handing out money so he may as well get some for himself.</p>
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		<title>By: yitzy99</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The culture of sending boys out in limos to collect can have unexpected consequences.  It has come to my attention that a young neighbor of mine spent Purim night going to shuls to collect money- for himself. While tzeddaka is a great mitzvah, if done improperly, it may lead our youngsters on a devastating downward path.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The culture of sending boys out in limos to collect can have unexpected consequences.  It has come to my attention that a young neighbor of mine spent Purim night going to shuls to collect money- for himself. While tzeddaka is a great mitzvah, if done improperly, it may lead our youngsters on a devastating downward path.</p>
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		<title>By: theshmoozer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To add to number 36. I was in attendance during a shiur in shul one night when during the shiur a fellow came in collecting money. Nobody told him &quot;nu, we are in the middle of a shiur, wait 15 minute until we stop before maariv&quot;, instead, people reached into their wallets and quietly gave, each based on what he felt appropriate to give. After 25 or so people gave a donation, the fellow either emboldened with chutzpah or simply didnt get it, or truly was desperate to collect tzedakah right at that moment, went over to the Rav saying the shuir and asked for tzedakah. 

The Rav reached into his pocket, without missing a beat in the shiur, and handed over several bills (I was too far away to see how much was given - but apparantly not enough - read on). The person collecting suddenly got very beligerent and DEMANDED (not asked) more money from the Rav, he wouldnt take what the Rav was giving!!! 

As we all sat open mouthed, the Rav told the man to leave the shul and not come back. He then told us, as a general rule, if someone cant accept whatever you give with a smile or, at least a thank you, you should be suspicious as to the true need. Someone who truly needs the money will take, whatever amount you give.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to number 36. I was in attendance during a shiur in shul one night when during the shiur a fellow came in collecting money. Nobody told him &#8220;nu, we are in the middle of a shiur, wait 15 minute until we stop before maariv&#8221;, instead, people reached into their wallets and quietly gave, each based on what he felt appropriate to give. After 25 or so people gave a donation, the fellow either emboldened with chutzpah or simply didnt get it, or truly was desperate to collect tzedakah right at that moment, went over to the Rav saying the shuir and asked for tzedakah. </p>
<p>The Rav reached into his pocket, without missing a beat in the shiur, and handed over several bills (I was too far away to see how much was given &#8211; but apparantly not enough &#8211; read on). The person collecting suddenly got very beligerent and DEMANDED (not asked) more money from the Rav, he wouldnt take what the Rav was giving!!! </p>
<p>As we all sat open mouthed, the Rav told the man to leave the shul and not come back. He then told us, as a general rule, if someone cant accept whatever you give with a smile or, at least a thank you, you should be suspicious as to the true need. Someone who truly needs the money will take, whatever amount you give.</p>
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		<title>By: kidushA</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People have many Mosdos to support and financial obligations. If a collecter argues with the Nosain then the Nosain should take back the money ASAP!! there are other aniyaim unfortunatly that will accept the amount with better Midos. It is not worth the time having to answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have many Mosdos to support and financial obligations. If a collecter argues with the Nosain then the Nosain should take back the money ASAP!! there are other aniyaim unfortunatly that will accept the amount with better Midos. It is not worth the time having to answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Orthonomics</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;but SOME are just afraid that they won’t be able to have funds to their vacation or for their entertainment system that they would like to purchase.. &lt;/i&gt;

I think the insults towards those unable to give as much as expected are just downright rude and they obviously come from those who have never had to bear the expenses of paying for the necessites of family life.  Rent/mortgage on a modest home + food + tuition + transporation to get to work + basic clothing and shoes purchased on sale costs money. .. . lot of it!  

Yes it can be hard to give, but it is insulting to insinuate it is because of extranous expenses and not just the expenses that are probably eating people alive, such as tuition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but SOME are just afraid that they won’t be able to have funds to their vacation or for their entertainment system that they would like to purchase.. </i></p>
<p>I think the insults towards those unable to give as much as expected are just downright rude and they obviously come from those who have never had to bear the expenses of paying for the necessites of family life.  Rent/mortgage on a modest home + food + tuition + transporation to get to work + basic clothing and shoes purchased on sale costs money. .. . lot of it!  </p>
<p>Yes it can be hard to give, but it is insulting to insinuate it is because of extranous expenses and not just the expenses that are probably eating people alive, such as tuition.</p>
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		<title>By: yid613</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[don&#039;t forget all the mosdos that are chocking to death because of the market downturn. They are there lishmah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget all the mosdos that are chocking to death because of the market downturn. They are there lishmah.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[beautiful!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful!</p>
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		<title>By: fmlogic123</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#25
Ask anyone who works for tomchei shabbos how many gorgeous houses with a lexus receive packages. These items were leased or purchased when the person had the ability to pay for them. You condemn to guickly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25<br />
Ask anyone who works for tomchei shabbos how many gorgeous houses with a lexus receive packages. These items were leased or purchased when the person had the ability to pay for them. You condemn to guickly</p>
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		<title>By: british</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i understand that the ultimate goal of the groups of bochurim that go out on purim is to collect as much tzeddaka as possible for their moissad. however, perhaps, they can, at the same time think of the people they visit. my father used to be a &quot;givir&quot; in town and had every group come knocking on the door. We were known to have one of the most leibidig houses over purim. all the kids loved having their friend over.but then my father got sick. and the money dried up. and the groups stopped coming. the younger children in the house could not understand what had suddenly happened to their purim. why did noone like them anymore? why did their friends want nothing to do with them anymore over purim? why did the house stay silent? yes, the groups wouldnt have gotten the same amount as other years, but surely they didnt have to rub the families nose in their own tzoros? Bochurim, please remember those families who are carrying extra burdens this year and take some time out to go and have an extra dance in their house. you may not line your pockets as heavely, but you will line your neshama!! Thank you for listening and understanding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i understand that the ultimate goal of the groups of bochurim that go out on purim is to collect as much tzeddaka as possible for their moissad. however, perhaps, they can, at the same time think of the people they visit. my father used to be a &#8220;givir&#8221; in town and had every group come knocking on the door. We were known to have one of the most leibidig houses over purim. all the kids loved having their friend over.but then my father got sick. and the money dried up. and the groups stopped coming. the younger children in the house could not understand what had suddenly happened to their purim. why did noone like them anymore? why did their friends want nothing to do with them anymore over purim? why did the house stay silent? yes, the groups wouldnt have gotten the same amount as other years, but surely they didnt have to rub the families nose in their own tzoros? Bochurim, please remember those families who are carrying extra burdens this year and take some time out to go and have an extra dance in their house. you may not line your pockets as heavely, but you will line your neshama!! Thank you for listening and understanding.</p>
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