Stay in america if you want.. but arm yourself.

Today’s corrosive society is a universal challenge, but one should not delude oneself that one is best off in Eretz Yisrael because of how spiritual it is, only to discover that there are other issues in spirituality that must be properly addressed.

For the life of me I can’t figure out why the Dept. of the Treasury cares about BMG or Yomin Noraim.

I couldn’t agree with you more.

I am not a Zionist. On the contrary, I ascribe to Rav Miller Z”L’s philosophy and am against Medinas Israel for all the reasons that any thinking Yid should be.

That said, there’s no denying that when a person lives in Eretz Yisroel, their lifestyle is a more spiritual one. When living in the American “avir”, you get pulled into the mess even when you try to keep away.

firstly in Brooklyn they higher security like crazy,there are atleast 2 cops per a corner and who knows what secret security there is?

BMG(lakewood yeshivah), brings in secret service for the yomim noraim.

Bais Yaakov of Boro Park has a security gaurd at the door.

Most schools have hiddenn cameras, what do you think its there for? to see whose cutting class?! rather for security perposes.

and each shul cant have security, who do you expect to be a gaurd?

All this Zionist propaganda (innocent though it may be, here) is, frankly, nauseating.

First, none of us are neviim and, therefore nobody truly knows where is safest. Speaking of Navi, there is plenty out there, bifeirush in the navi (and gemara) that deals with the subject. Have you checked it out?

Second, like every other incident that the Zionists try to play to their favor to get aliyah going, 9/11 is a purely emotional yet highly illogical and mistaken reason to move to Israel. As the Israeli leaders at the time, always trying – and failing – to convince the world that they are “good”, said, Israel has had many 9/11s. So in a simplistic comparison between one 9/11 vs. many, which place would seem safer?

I do not wish to waste time by elaborating further – it has all been said elsewhere and is a matter of history – Zionism has been a disaster for world Jewry for tens of years, despite whatever “good” MAY have happened to have come up from it.

Most importantly, where will you be a better Jew (yes, inclu-ding vachai bahem, of course)? In the US? England? France? Zimbabwe? So whatever works for you seems to be the most sensible road to take, not emotional phony reasons like “move to Israel because 9/11 happened and Jews were, G-d forbid, lost on that day….”

Ask your local orthodox Rabbi, maybe, what’s best in general, and for you, in particular.

May Hashem protect all of His people, wherever they may be living and may Hashem end the galus and bring mashiach tzidkeinu, bimheirah biyameinu, Amein.