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		<title>By: jent1150</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to mr pasheteh yid and  whoever, if you find my writing incomprihensible dont read it.we dont have a sectratary to proof read,doing my business online needs total concentration, kookt oichet in a sefer so thats  that ..also the reason we use &quot;we&quot; not I ,see #39 parag 3, because using &quot;I&quot; denotes gaiveh unlike mr sinisent&#039;s taineh that &quot;we&quot; is gaiveh ,actually the term should be &quot;mir&quot; ,but of course that doesn&#039;t make me ois bal gaiveh see#39 paragrph 3. this vort is from the holy reb&#039; aron of karlin... if you want, mir, we ,I, will look up exactly where, mir have the sefer ..and post. anyway all kidding aside, now again mr sinisent, mr illini07 not out of malice , (remember &quot;with malice toward none...librty for...)who said it ,im just below 4th grade level ,ok ,it was Abe Lincoln, what bothers them is not my spelling, grammer etc  but ..see #35p, but the content,  de tachas, see post #14 &quot;crown heights man...&quot; also see post #4 article &quot;open letter to..&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to mr pasheteh yid and  whoever, if you find my writing incomprihensible dont read it.we dont have a sectratary to proof read,doing my business online needs total concentration, kookt oichet in a sefer so thats  that ..also the reason we use &#8220;we&#8221; not I ,see #39 parag 3, because using &#8220;I&#8221; denotes gaiveh unlike mr sinisent&#8217;s taineh that &#8220;we&#8221; is gaiveh ,actually the term should be &#8220;mir&#8221; ,but of course that doesn&#8217;t make me ois bal gaiveh see#39 paragrph 3. this vort is from the holy reb&#8217; aron of karlin&#8230; if you want, mir, we ,I, will look up exactly where, mir have the sefer ..and post. anyway all kidding aside, now again mr sinisent, mr illini07 not out of malice , (remember &#8220;with malice toward none&#8230;librty for&#8230;)who said it ,im just below 4th grade level ,ok ,it was Abe Lincoln, what bothers them is not my spelling, grammer etc  but ..see #35p, but the content,  de tachas, see post #14 &#8220;crown heights man&#8230;&#8221; also see post #4 article &#8220;open letter to..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jent1150</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to mr pashuteh yid..we should have shiur together,maybe you&#039;ll teach me spelin&#039; an&#039; gramah..mr sinisent and mr illini07 are coplainin&#039; me cant spelin an &#039;grammah&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to mr pashuteh yid..we should have shiur together,maybe you&#8217;ll teach me spelin&#8217; an&#8217; gramah..mr sinisent and mr illini07 are coplainin&#8217; me cant spelin an &#8216;grammah&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: jent1150</title>
		<link>http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/17044/former-mayor-ed-koch-plans-to-be-buried-in-non-jewish-cemetery-after-consulting-with-rabbi.html#comment-81450</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to #43 ..we are very satisfeied (for those who observe the rules of i before except after c its s-a-t-i-s-f-i-e-d) with our 4th grade level enklis...so if you are above comprihending 4th grade level englis, next time you see post with this siknitur scip it ,yashor koach..also how is it a yid nit fatshteit yiddish? (enyunei d&#039;yoma- lo shini shemom, leshonom..now please this is said in goocd will not hate so dont start crying ....to mr pashute yid..the closes in the chazon ish that gets your point is lash paragraph last 2 lines &quot;...v&#039;uleinu l&#039;hachzirom bavosos ahavahu lehamidom bekern orah bmah sheyodeinu magas&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to #43 ..we are very satisfeied (for those who observe the rules of i before except after c its s-a-t-i-s-f-i-e-d) with our 4th grade level enklis&#8230;so if you are above comprihending 4th grade level englis, next time you see post with this siknitur scip it ,yashor koach..also how is it a yid nit fatshteit yiddish? (enyunei d&#8217;yoma- lo shini shemom, leshonom..now please this is said in goocd will not hate so dont start crying &#8230;.to mr pashute yid..the closes in the chazon ish that gets your point is lash paragraph last 2 lines &#8220;&#8230;v&#8217;uleinu l&#8217;hachzirom bavosos ahavahu lehamidom bekern orah bmah sheyodeinu magas&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jent1150</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to mr pasuheth yid RE: #38..(excuse for being childish and using term &quot;mr.&quot; {see #39 parag.5).. looked in the &quot;chazon ish&quot;... there is nothing said about being &quot;friendly to....&quot; he talks about the halocho of &quot;...moridin v&#039;lo malin, that is not nohag b&#039;zman hazah...now please dont take it personally, this is what we wanted to proof, one qoutes  this rebbe that poisek the other tzaddik  and on that basis one  makes a shita  which is k&#039;neged halacha...so this will be for future if one can show exactly where a particlar hashkofa is ,so we can verify when dealing against a common sense halacha... AGAIN.. THE cHAZON ISH DOES NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT BEING FRIENDLY TO CHILONIM in those 2 paragraphs(not that we shouldnt)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to mr pasuheth yid RE: #38..(excuse for being childish and using term &#8220;mr.&#8221; {see #39 parag.5).. looked in the &#8220;chazon ish&#8221;&#8230; there is nothing said about being &#8220;friendly to&#8230;.&#8221; he talks about the halocho of &#8220;&#8230;moridin v&#8217;lo malin, that is not nohag b&#8217;zman hazah&#8230;now please dont take it personally, this is what we wanted to proof, one qoutes  this rebbe that poisek the other tzaddik  and on that basis one  makes a shita  which is k&#8217;neged halacha&#8230;so this will be for future if one can show exactly where a particlar hashkofa is ,so we can verify when dealing against a common sense halacha&#8230; AGAIN.. THE cHAZON ISH DOES NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT BEING FRIENDLY TO CHILONIM in those 2 paragraphs(not that we shouldnt)</p>
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		<title>By: jent1150</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OPPS! to #39 mt sinisent..just noticed your post see #28,#42 for response...please why do you take it so personel...torah hu v&#039;lilmod ani tzorich.  now if you dont agree go ahead, but only with reyous from halacha not from maises ,this rebbe said that rebbe said which we cant verify..also dovid hamelech says &quot;oizvei torah yehalelu rasha v&#039;shomrei torah yisgeru bom&quot; so one says &quot;not nowdays etc etc etc&quot;...zolzein azoi..,now we do not hate mr koch, if we catch him chas v&#039;esholem we will not tear him limb to limb and hang him on bridge(you know which sub-human animal babarians do it...{oy vei did i insult someone out there by talking loshon hora on you know who?})and chas v&#039;sholem if mr koch,(to #39 paragraph 5 please dont excuse me for being child and use term MR)needs hatzolah we will run just like to any other yid we. can only come to conclution of what bothers you is the posuk in te&#039;hillem refered above.  remeber the gemmorah b&#039;rochs 10a bruriuh wife of reb meir said &quot;yitamu chatuim not choitim&quot;...but here is a big chilil hashem see#11 so all those taines does not cancell the big chilul hashem, so can you refute that? yes im a child,retarded ,uneducated,un-grmmaticle (grammtical, for those who are perticlar on spelink), should play in playground,but even a child can say sometimes something worthwile...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OPPS! to #39 mt sinisent..just noticed your post see #28,#42 for response&#8230;please why do you take it so personel&#8230;torah hu v&#8217;lilmod ani tzorich.  now if you dont agree go ahead, but only with reyous from halacha not from maises ,this rebbe said that rebbe said which we cant verify..also dovid hamelech says &#8220;oizvei torah yehalelu rasha v&#8217;shomrei torah yisgeru bom&#8221; so one says &#8220;not nowdays etc etc etc&#8221;&#8230;zolzein azoi..,now we do not hate mr koch, if we catch him chas v&#8217;esholem we will not tear him limb to limb and hang him on bridge(you know which sub-human animal babarians do it&#8230;{oy vei did i insult someone out there by talking loshon hora on you know who?})and chas v&#8217;sholem if mr koch,(to #39 paragraph 5 please dont excuse me for being child and use term MR)needs hatzolah we will run just like to any other yid we. can only come to conclution of what bothers you is the posuk in te&#8217;hillem refered above.  remeber the gemmorah b&#8217;rochs 10a bruriuh wife of reb meir said &#8220;yitamu chatuim not choitim&#8221;&#8230;but here is a big chilil hashem see#11 so all those taines does not cancell the big chilul hashem, so can you refute that? yes im a child,retarded ,uneducated,un-grmmaticle (grammtical, for those who are perticlar on spelink), should play in playground,but even a child can say sometimes something worthwile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zaitgezunt</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To jent1150

This is an english correspondence forum.  As such, it would make sense to submit your comments beyond a fourth grade level of english.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To jent1150</p>
<p>This is an english correspondence forum.  As such, it would make sense to submit your comments beyond a fourth grade level of english.</p>
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		<title>By: jent1150</title>
		<link>http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/17044/former-mayor-ed-koch-plans-to-be-buried-in-non-jewish-cemetery-after-consulting-with-rabbi.html#comment-81396</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to mr illinio7..adious&#039; see you next artikle...al taneh kesil keivalto...if you take it personeli.. to #40  those who wil not take our opinion seriously because of gremer thos we are not tryink to influens... to mr illini07 dear mr mature so why do you respond altogetr to cild comm. you stil did nt refut anytink, but if it makes you feel intligent go ahed..engaging in ad hominem doesnt make you rigt..pleze dont exkuce our spelink and grame]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to mr illinio7..adious&#8217; see you next artikle&#8230;al taneh kesil keivalto&#8230;if you take it personeli.. to #40  those who wil not take our opinion seriously because of gremer thos we are not tryink to influens&#8230; to mr illini07 dear mr mature so why do you respond altogetr to cild comm. you stil did nt refut anytink, but if it makes you feel intligent go ahed..engaging in ad hominem doesnt make you rigt..pleze dont exkuce our spelink and grame</p>
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		<title>By: Proud of KAJ-WH TIDE</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is nobody&#039;s business what Mr. Koch wants to do  after he dies. We  are not tzaddikim that we can judge his decisions. History will prove he wasa tinok sh&#039;nisha and not a rosho. He is misguided,like so many of us are. Let Hashem judge and decide where his soul will go when his large body (he&#039;s very tall) goes to rest in Harlem/Washington Heights. At least he will not be cremated,nor will he have any sons to recite Kaddish or  children who will follow in his way. He is proud to proclaim &#039;Shma Yisroel. Poor guy is a little mixed-up,but that does not make him a rosho. Please don&#039;t be so mean;who knows what tzidkus he may have done and some day,we may be in dire need of Hashem&#039;s mercy while he is enjoying his long sleep in the ground of his beloved ManhattanPlease,fellow posters and yIDDEN, LEARN TO SPELL AND WRITE INTELLIGENTLY ,OTHERWISE,NO ONE WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. yOUR OPINIONS REFLECT THE WAY THEY ARE PRESENTED.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nobody&#8217;s business what Mr. Koch wants to do  after he dies. We  are not tzaddikim that we can judge his decisions. History will prove he wasa tinok sh&#8217;nisha and not a rosho. He is misguided,like so many of us are. Let Hashem judge and decide where his soul will go when his large body (he&#8217;s very tall) goes to rest in Harlem/Washington Heights. At least he will not be cremated,nor will he have any sons to recite Kaddish or  children who will follow in his way. He is proud to proclaim &#8216;Shma Yisroel. Poor guy is a little mixed-up,but that does not make him a rosho. Please don&#8217;t be so mean;who knows what tzidkus he may have done and some day,we may be in dire need of Hashem&#8217;s mercy while he is enjoying his long sleep in the ground of his beloved ManhattanPlease,fellow posters and yIDDEN, LEARN TO SPELL AND WRITE INTELLIGENTLY ,OTHERWISE,NO ONE WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. yOUR OPINIONS REFLECT THE WAY THEY ARE PRESENTED.</p>
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		<title>By: sinaisent</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[response to the prolific jent1150 (# 16):

- &quot;where do you think he is going to end up?&quot; = I dont know what this man&#039;s private life is like but I cdertainly know that in oublic he was not Over Kol hatorah Kulo so I am not in a position to know where he will end up indeed I am not the boss of that but I do know that the One who IS the Boss of that will make His determination and will not be guided by your advice or suggestion

- I am not reform but am indeed Orthodox, i see from your pronounciation however that you are, or at least speak as if you are, part of a sect of &quot;orthodox&quot; jews that has difficukty accepting or respecting those who may have different shittos or opinions from them. I feel for you that through all your Avoda Bsimcha you can&#039;t accept other viewpoints and find it difficult to coexist with your co-religionists. reminds me of another sect located in the Middle East, they are called chamas perhaps you are familiar with them.

- &quot;we dont have to check..&quot; who is this &quot;we&quot; that you are speaking for? Is it again a group of people who believe that not only do they have a lock on the Torah but that they represent teh Ribbono Shel Olam and only they know what He would do in any situation? You use the Imperial We in several instances where does such arrogance stem? Are you sure you are not reform yourself? With your Gayva you certainly are not a talmid of Moshe Rabbeinu. 

- &quot;w reread all postings can you point out which claimed he cant do tsuvah&quot;. reread # 4, i know there may be too much English for you to understand but the claim is there.

- last I checked, the use of terms such as &quot;mr this or mr. that&quot; was common in the playground but usually done with by the 6th grade, you support my assertion that you are indeed a child with a child&#039;s brain and unfortunately probably an adults ability to do real harm. Your postings are all nasty attacks on the writers with small minded arguments with questionable sources. are you a child or did you just not get past the 6th grade?

You did not address my point that Koch did not request this plot out of a disdain for his Yiddishkeit but out of an, albeit misguided, love of the city, most true orthodox rabbis would pause to consider the distinction.

I would gladly take 100 ohavei yisroel like ed Koch over a Sonai Yisroel as yourself any day. (if anyone thinks I am exxagerating read the postings of this guy)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>response to the prolific jent1150 (# 16):</p>
<p>- &#8220;where do you think he is going to end up?&#8221; = I dont know what this man&#8217;s private life is like but I cdertainly know that in oublic he was not Over Kol hatorah Kulo so I am not in a position to know where he will end up indeed I am not the boss of that but I do know that the One who IS the Boss of that will make His determination and will not be guided by your advice or suggestion</p>
<p>- I am not reform but am indeed Orthodox, i see from your pronounciation however that you are, or at least speak as if you are, part of a sect of &#8220;orthodox&#8221; jews that has difficukty accepting or respecting those who may have different shittos or opinions from them. I feel for you that through all your Avoda Bsimcha you can&#8217;t accept other viewpoints and find it difficult to coexist with your co-religionists. reminds me of another sect located in the Middle East, they are called chamas perhaps you are familiar with them.</p>
<p>- &#8220;we dont have to check..&#8221; who is this &#8220;we&#8221; that you are speaking for? Is it again a group of people who believe that not only do they have a lock on the Torah but that they represent teh Ribbono Shel Olam and only they know what He would do in any situation? You use the Imperial We in several instances where does such arrogance stem? Are you sure you are not reform yourself? With your Gayva you certainly are not a talmid of Moshe Rabbeinu. </p>
<p>- &#8220;w reread all postings can you point out which claimed he cant do tsuvah&#8221;. reread # 4, i know there may be too much English for you to understand but the claim is there.</p>
<p>- last I checked, the use of terms such as &#8220;mr this or mr. that&#8221; was common in the playground but usually done with by the 6th grade, you support my assertion that you are indeed a child with a child&#8217;s brain and unfortunately probably an adults ability to do real harm. Your postings are all nasty attacks on the writers with small minded arguments with questionable sources. are you a child or did you just not get past the 6th grade?</p>
<p>You did not address my point that Koch did not request this plot out of a disdain for his Yiddishkeit but out of an, albeit misguided, love of the city, most true orthodox rabbis would pause to consider the distinction.</p>
<p>I would gladly take 100 ohavei yisroel like ed Koch over a Sonai Yisroel as yourself any day. (if anyone thinks I am exxagerating read the postings of this guy)</p>
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		<title>By: Caring Jew</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How sad,Mr. Koch is unaware that there is no Manhattan in the Olam Haemes. How ironic,  My father z&quot;l lived through the gehinnom of Auschwitz, at his levaya as he was being lowered into the ground I remember thanking Hashem that he was zocheh to Kever  Yisroel when so much of his family and so many of his contemporaries were not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sad,Mr. Koch is unaware that there is no Manhattan in the Olam Haemes. How ironic,  My father z&#8221;l lived through the gehinnom of Auschwitz, at his levaya as he was being lowered into the ground I remember thanking Hashem that he was zocheh to Kever  Yisroel when so much of his family and so many of his contemporaries were not.</p>
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