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		<title>By: knocker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[knocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#10, you didn&#039;t answer my question. What does the government spending money on the war have to do with the economic downturn? This that the money could have been &#039;better spent at home protecting the borders and for us Americans&#039;, doesn&#039;t mean that it would have helped the economy. Big momtgage companys and wall street firms that are going down have nothing to do with that. Prices of gas, milk, bread etc. has nothing to do with the government spending money. Forclosures on the rise and home vaues plumeting also have nothing to do. And this that we should have attacked Iran, well it&#039;s true, and they still should attak Iran. But that doesn&#039;t mean that Iraq wasn&#039;t a danger too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10, you didn&#8217;t answer my question. What does the government spending money on the war have to do with the economic downturn? This that the money could have been &#8216;better spent at home protecting the borders and for us Americans&#8217;, doesn&#8217;t mean that it would have helped the economy. Big momtgage companys and wall street firms that are going down have nothing to do with that. Prices of gas, milk, bread etc. has nothing to do with the government spending money. Forclosures on the rise and home vaues plumeting also have nothing to do. And this that we should have attacked Iran, well it&#8217;s true, and they still should attak Iran. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that Iraq wasn&#8217;t a danger too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rav Mechel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rav Mechel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think straight, not, I think you might want to reconsider your idiotic statement. Instead of saying I am a part of moveon.org, why not actually think about the situation. In fact there are plenty of conservatives that think this war is getting the US nowhere and deeper into trouble.
Please explain how war can be good for economics . 
#4, I will first answer you question. War has a lot to do with the economy. You see when we are pumping trillions of dollars into an endless war, that money can be better spent at home protecting the borders and for us Americans. Don&#039;t spew that garbage that we had to attack Iraq because of 9/11.Its nonsence. We should of attacked Iran first and formost according to that theory because they are the biggest sponsor of terror and the greatest threat to the world. We went into Iraq to control the oil. We just used Saddam as an exuce but we all know he had nothing to do with 9/11. In the 1980&#039;s the US cozied up to Saddam, we all know that. So stop the garbage that we went in because of 9/11.
Bottom line is the US went into Iraq because of selfish reasons and we are all paying the price for it at home here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think straight, not, I think you might want to reconsider your idiotic statement. Instead of saying I am a part of moveon.org, why not actually think about the situation. In fact there are plenty of conservatives that think this war is getting the US nowhere and deeper into trouble.<br />
Please explain how war can be good for economics .<br />
#4, I will first answer you question. War has a lot to do with the economy. You see when we are pumping trillions of dollars into an endless war, that money can be better spent at home protecting the borders and for us Americans. Don&#8217;t spew that garbage that we had to attack Iraq because of 9/11.Its nonsence. We should of attacked Iran first and formost according to that theory because they are the biggest sponsor of terror and the greatest threat to the world. We went into Iraq to control the oil. We just used Saddam as an exuce but we all know he had nothing to do with 9/11. In the 1980&#8242;s the US cozied up to Saddam, we all know that. So stop the garbage that we went in because of 9/11.<br />
Bottom line is the US went into Iraq because of selfish reasons and we are all paying the price for it at home here.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud of KAJ-WH TIDE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Proud of KAJ-WH TIDE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Defending ourselves and our country costs money.We have to  pay for defense and offense,too so that we can survive. Sometimes we must make hard choices and that is what a leader must do. The President has the facts;we don&#039;t. We MUST trust him,and daven that HKB&quot;H gives him the right thoughts to do what is good for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defending ourselves and our country costs money.We have to  pay for defense and offense,too so that we can survive. Sometimes we must make hard choices and that is what a leader must do. The President has the facts;we don&#8217;t. We MUST trust him,and daven that HKB&#8221;H gives him the right thoughts to do what is good for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud of KAJ-WH TIDE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Proud of KAJ-WH TIDE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everything gets smuggled in and out of every place it can in USA


On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Raphael Moeller  wrote:

SMUGGLED BUTTS: THE TERROR TIES - New York Post



THE TERROR TIES 
By PETER KING
 

April 30, 2008 -- STATE law-enforcement officials approached me several months ago with some disturbing news: Recent investigations have indicated that cigarette-smug gling rings in New York are funneling large sums of money to overseas terrorist groups. The officials estimated it at millions of dollars a year. 

I immediately ordered my staff on the US House Committee on Homeland Security to conduct a full investigation; the results are alarming. 

The report, based on interviews with federal, state and local officials, sheds light on two startling issues: 



Smugglers send millions a year to Hamas, Hezbollah.


* By failing to enforce its tax laws, New York state has in essence created a safe haven for cigarette smuggling. 

* The reports of cigarette smugglers&#039; sending money to terrorist organizations are true. 

New York&#039;s refusal to collect taxes on the resale of untaxed cigarettes by Native American reservations - a policy called &quot;forbearance&quot; - has created an incredible opportunity for criminal enterprises. 

Smugglers can buy cartons of brand-name cigarettes from the reservations for as little as $30, attach counterfeit tax stamps and resell them for more than twice what they paid. 

Keep in mind that it&#039;s illegal for reservations to resell these cigarettes to non-Native Americans without paying the applicable taxes. But Albany&#039;s policy is to turn the other cheek - simply out of fear of a political backlash. 

The profit margins for cigarette smugglers are staggering. In New York City, where cartons must sell for a minimum of $70, a smuggler can make more than $50,000 on a 1,500-carton load. A well-organized ring can generate $200,000 to $300,000 a week. 

A 2006 state Department of Health report estimated that New York loses $436 million to $576 million a year in taxes from the sale of untaxed cigarettes alone - a figure that could rise to $800 million-plus this year. 

Given the state&#039;s budget shortfall, the hundreds of millions in lost revenue would seem to be more than enough reason to end the &quot;forbearance&quot; policy. But it&#039;s far more than just a matter of revenue - it&#039;s a matter of national security. 

Many cigarette-smuggling rings are now sending their profits to overseas terrorist organ- izations, including Hamas and Hezbollah. The report identifies three recent cases where cigarette smugglers had ties to such groups. In one case, convicted butt-smuggler Mohamad Hammoud made more than $8 million from 2000 to 2002 - and funneled at least $100,000 to Hezbollah. Officials estimate that these smugglers are sending millions a year to overseas terror networks. 

The $50,000-plus from just one contraband load would be enough to fund as many as 10 USS Cole bombings. In just several weeks of butt-smuggling, a motivated terrorist cell could generate enough to fund another 9/11-style attack (estimated operational cost: $500,000). 

New Yorkers, more than anyone else, understand the terrorist threat - and that&#039;s why we must bring the illicit cigarette trade in the state to an immediate end. 

Last week, Gov. Paterson indicated a willingness to re-examine the &quot;forbearance&quot; policy; I&#039;ll fully support him in the effort. 

New York state must take action to enforce our tax laws - and give law enforcement the support it needs to crack down on cigarette-smuggling rings. 

This issue has been ignored for far too long. Given the clear threat to the city, state and nation, we can&#039;t afford to wait another day. 

Peter King, a Republican]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything gets smuggled in and out of every place it can in USA</p>
<p>On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Raphael Moeller  wrote:</p>
<p>SMUGGLED BUTTS: THE TERROR TIES &#8211; New York Post</p>
<p>THE TERROR TIES<br />
By PETER KING</p>
<p>April 30, 2008 &#8212; STATE law-enforcement officials approached me several months ago with some disturbing news: Recent investigations have indicated that cigarette-smug gling rings in New York are funneling large sums of money to overseas terrorist groups. The officials estimated it at millions of dollars a year. </p>
<p>I immediately ordered my staff on the US House Committee on Homeland Security to conduct a full investigation; the results are alarming. </p>
<p>The report, based on interviews with federal, state and local officials, sheds light on two startling issues: </p>
<p>Smugglers send millions a year to Hamas, Hezbollah.</p>
<p>* By failing to enforce its tax laws, New York state has in essence created a safe haven for cigarette smuggling. </p>
<p>* The reports of cigarette smugglers&#8217; sending money to terrorist organizations are true. </p>
<p>New York&#8217;s refusal to collect taxes on the resale of untaxed cigarettes by Native American reservations &#8211; a policy called &#8220;forbearance&#8221; &#8211; has created an incredible opportunity for criminal enterprises. </p>
<p>Smugglers can buy cartons of brand-name cigarettes from the reservations for as little as $30, attach counterfeit tax stamps and resell them for more than twice what they paid. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that it&#8217;s illegal for reservations to resell these cigarettes to non-Native Americans without paying the applicable taxes. But Albany&#8217;s policy is to turn the other cheek &#8211; simply out of fear of a political backlash. </p>
<p>The profit margins for cigarette smugglers are staggering. In New York City, where cartons must sell for a minimum of $70, a smuggler can make more than $50,000 on a 1,500-carton load. A well-organized ring can generate $200,000 to $300,000 a week. </p>
<p>A 2006 state Department of Health report estimated that New York loses $436 million to $576 million a year in taxes from the sale of untaxed cigarettes alone &#8211; a figure that could rise to $800 million-plus this year. </p>
<p>Given the state&#8217;s budget shortfall, the hundreds of millions in lost revenue would seem to be more than enough reason to end the &#8220;forbearance&#8221; policy. But it&#8217;s far more than just a matter of revenue &#8211; it&#8217;s a matter of national security. </p>
<p>Many cigarette-smuggling rings are now sending their profits to overseas terrorist organ- izations, including Hamas and Hezbollah. The report identifies three recent cases where cigarette smugglers had ties to such groups. In one case, convicted butt-smuggler Mohamad Hammoud made more than $8 million from 2000 to 2002 &#8211; and funneled at least $100,000 to Hezbollah. Officials estimate that these smugglers are sending millions a year to overseas terror networks. </p>
<p>The $50,000-plus from just one contraband load would be enough to fund as many as 10 USS Cole bombings. In just several weeks of butt-smuggling, a motivated terrorist cell could generate enough to fund another 9/11-style attack (estimated operational cost: $500,000). </p>
<p>New Yorkers, more than anyone else, understand the terrorist threat &#8211; and that&#8217;s why we must bring the illicit cigarette trade in the state to an immediate end. </p>
<p>Last week, Gov. Paterson indicated a willingness to re-examine the &#8220;forbearance&#8221; policy; I&#8217;ll fully support him in the effort. </p>
<p>New York state must take action to enforce our tax laws &#8211; and give law enforcement the support it needs to crack down on cigarette-smuggling rings. </p>
<p>This issue has been ignored for far too long. Given the clear threat to the city, state and nation, we can&#8217;t afford to wait another day. </p>
<p>Peter King, a Republican</p>
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		<title>By: bklynmom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bklynmom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Start digging for oil domestically.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start digging for oil domestically.</p>
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		<title>By: liver lover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liver lover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#1 is your pocketbook more important to you than the safety that was gained by our fellow jews in eretz yisrael by the ousting of Sadaam hussein ? b&quot;h Bush ,even if for the wrong reasons decided to go into iraq and eliminated this wacko. the fact that atleast now there is one less threat to worry about is good enough for me , even if what you are saying is true that he ruined the economy. i am willing to suffer a little bit financially if this means that e&quot;y is a bit safer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 is your pocketbook more important to you than the safety that was gained by our fellow jews in eretz yisrael by the ousting of Sadaam hussein ? b&#8221;h Bush ,even if for the wrong reasons decided to go into iraq and eliminated this wacko. the fact that atleast now there is one less threat to worry about is good enough for me , even if what you are saying is true that he ruined the economy. i am willing to suffer a little bit financially if this means that e&#8221;y is a bit safer.</p>
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		<title>By: knocker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[knocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what does the war have got to do with the economy? Did the war make gas prices go up? Did the war cause the housing slump? President Bush (yes, President. a little bit kovod for malchei umos haolom) did the most logical thing after 9/11, and that is to go after all these radical muslim countrys, that are busy dreaming how they can kill us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what does the war have got to do with the economy? Did the war make gas prices go up? Did the war cause the housing slump? President Bush (yes, President. a little bit kovod for malchei umos haolom) did the most logical thing after 9/11, and that is to go after all these radical muslim countrys, that are busy dreaming how they can kill us.</p>
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		<title>By: drawkcab</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drawkcab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think Straight:

1. &quot;don’t you know one of the first rules of economoics; namely that war is good for the economy?&quot;

            I believe you&#039;re oversimplifying it just a bit...

2. And by the way you wrote &quot;but that is due to a whole other set of events.&quot; 
Well why don&#039;t you elaborate.

          All you&#039;ve done is attacked someone else and thrown out cliches. Why don&#039;t you articulate more thoroughly before commenting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Straight:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;don’t you know one of the first rules of economoics; namely that war is good for the economy?&#8221;</p>
<p>            I believe you&#8217;re oversimplifying it just a bit&#8230;</p>
<p>2. And by the way you wrote &#8220;but that is due to a whole other set of events.&#8221;<br />
Well why don&#8217;t you elaborate.</p>
<p>          All you&#8217;ve done is attacked someone else and thrown out cliches. Why don&#8217;t you articulate more thoroughly before commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Straight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Think Straight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mechel - did you make a shehakol before imbibing generously from the moveon.org Koolaid?

Seriously, without rebutting your inane comments, don&#039;t you know one of the first rules of economoics; namely that war is good for the economy? (Yes, I know that the economy is &quot;in der erd&quot; right now, but that is due to a whole other set of events.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mechel &#8211; did you make a shehakol before imbibing generously from the moveon.org Koolaid?</p>
<p>Seriously, without rebutting your inane comments, don&#8217;t you know one of the first rules of economoics; namely that war is good for the economy? (Yes, I know that the economy is &#8220;in der erd&#8221; right now, but that is due to a whole other set of events.</p>
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		<title>By: Rav Mechel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rav Mechel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Bush, Instead of spending trillions of dollars on a dumb war that was flawed from the get go, invest that money into the US economy. Stop killing innocent people and US troops on a war that keeps on dragging on and on with no end in sight. Shame on you. 
You got us into this mess and soon you will leave office and melt away into oblivion and leave the rest of us to suffer while you enjoy the comforts of life and living off your oil wealth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bush, Instead of spending trillions of dollars on a dumb war that was flawed from the get go, invest that money into the US economy. Stop killing innocent people and US troops on a war that keeps on dragging on and on with no end in sight. Shame on you.<br />
You got us into this mess and soon you will leave office and melt away into oblivion and leave the rest of us to suffer while you enjoy the comforts of life and living off your oil wealth.</p>
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