Comments on: Out Of The Mailbag: (Baal Haabos Proposes Parnassa Solution)

By: P.Almoni

P.Almoni — Sat, 24 May 2008 19:05:43 +0000

to #74

One Gadol – I believe it was Rav Powarsky.

I’m not sure what you mean by mile dealmoh, different Rabbonim who paskened different Halochos could all have been correct. Those who died al Kidush Hashem were Mekadesh Shem Shomayim. Those who survived Boruch HaShem !

By: willi

willi — Thu, 22 May 2008 21:12:34 +0000

pashute yid, you’re right that there’s a bad attitude in chedarim regarding limudei chol – therefore your idea won’t work in chassidishe schools.

By: ecomajor

ecomajor — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:47:13 +0000

Pashuteh Yid,

Although your idea is very good on paper it is highly impractical. it would cost a fortune to find teachers to teach this kind of knowledge and anyways even with this knowledge most major corporations will not hire someone without work experience who lacks a college degree, advanced training and all. Furthermore, most college students who have studied for years know nothing when they start working they learn most things on the job.

By: sane

sane — Thu, 22 May 2008 14:26:17 +0000

This whole college danger business is utter nonsense. There are thousands of college educated Yidden who earn their living as a result of their degree, who are yerai shomayim, kovea ittim. supporters of torah with children who are wonderful bnai torah. The proof is staring you in the face.

By: P.Almoni

P.Almoni — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:15:01 +0000

to #57

Your screen name does not seem to match your attitude, and you seem to be delibrately taking my comments out of context.

I did not say or imply that you can walk in to a car dealership and obtain a car by “reciting” a Brisker Rav. My main point was simply a “machoo” against your comment and tone which seesm to indicate a lack of respect and value to learning Torah and to those who learn Torah Lishmo.

Finally, perhaps you don’t need to look further than yourself for the proof that going to college after learning Torah can be dangerous to your Yiddishkeit and Hashkofos.

By: P.Almoni

P.Almoni — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:00:19 +0000

to #59. Sorry, I should have written SOME Gedolim.
It is a fact that some Gedolim did prefer the Germans rather than the Russians…Yehoreg veAl Yaavor.
Other Gedolim paskened differently. Elu veElu divrei Elhoim Chaim.
I’m not sure why the brocha of “shame” was required ?!

By: willi

willi — Thu, 22 May 2008 05:42:35 +0000

#68 – r u talking to yourself?

By: halavai

halavai — Thu, 22 May 2008 03:07:05 +0000

Pashuteh Yid- I have no problem w/ YU, I think it’s a fine institution, the only problem is that it costs about 40k a year. The others that I mentioned are a fraction of the cost- and if people are complaining that entry level salaries aren’t enough to feed families, then it certainly wouldn’t be enough to feed families and pay off 100k in student loans.

By: halavai

halavai — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:23:58 +0000

The college matter is not so simple. There really are alot of problems with the college environment and even with the “perfect” yeshiva education, there is no guarantee of standing up to the nisyonos, and even if that’s not a problem, there are major problems with purposely putting yourself in an untznius environment, issurim about the things you’re going to see and hear if its not going to cause you to go off the derech. So lets admit that college comes with legitimate concerns. That being said, however, there are enough ways around that making it assur legamrei is inexcusable. Someone posted above that Touro and Landers are ecellent options for frum people; furthermore, lets say you live in New York, you could reasonably attend Baruch college or Queens college or Brooklyn college by day and come home at night- nearly all of the spiritual problems with college exist in the dorm/social life and commuter students don’t have to deal with it, because they come in to go to school and they go home at night and therefore remove themselves from the worst of it. It’s a workable solution solution, and I know many who succeeded both materially and spiritually in this way, including my husband, who was already married to me for the second half of his college years.

By: mdlevine

mdlevine — Wed, 21 May 2008 19:35:56 +0000

#56: you wrote: “The culture of blood suckers who are lazy, unmotivated, arrogant and ignorant must stop. I do put a lot of blame on the yeshivas for fostering such a philosophy”

that’s pretty strong words about your brothers and sisters! you ought to be ashamed of yourself! your drivel is worthy of the kkk or the aryan nation – not Yeshiva World.

#41: zero tolerance – hatzlocha rabba explaining why you sometimes arrive late or need to leave shul early or perhaps you need to miss a learning seder due to other pressing needs afterall there is a concept of mida keneged mida.

regarding facial hair – if you hire an employee based on his beard or lack there of and maintain this employee as long as the beard is the same as when you hired him, this is pure foolishness. you are judging by the external appearence and not what the person can do. So during sefira, what do you do? what about a person in shloshim (and some have a longer period) – do you sit these ingrates down and lecture them to shave or trim?