Comments on: TEHILIM ALERT – Hagon Rav Chaim Pinchos Sheinberg Taken to Hospital

By: I can only try

I can only try — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:45:53 +0000

When Rav Moshe Feinstein, zatzal and Rav Yakov Kaminetzky, zatzal were niftar within about two weeks of each other several years ago there were asifos to mourn the tragedy and there were yeshivos that had half-day fasts. One of the things that was discussed was that even though they both had arichas yomim, it is still a day of availus and a tragedy to Klal Yisroel to lose such tzadikim.
Lihavdil bain chaim l’chaim, Rav Sheinberg, shlita is one of the Gedolei Hador, and one of very few left from the previous generation. May we continue to be zoche to many more years of his leadership as (to use the words he concludes his shmoozin with) we “keep smiling and keep going”.

By: CoffeeKup

CoffeeKup — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:16:41 +0000

Just today Reb Yisroel Neumann spoke about how when an older person passes away that needs to be a BIGGER Hisorerus. I encourage you to listen to it on Kol Halashon. (Look up the number on the thread about Rebetzin Miller A”H).

By: Itzik_s

Itzik_s — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:23:12 +0000

BS”D

One of the reasons I enjoy this site is that it is relatively free of troll comments. However, poster 4 is a known troll who pollutes another frum site that is not as well moderated as this one. While this comment shows him for what he is – someone looking for attention – it is not worth giving him another venue to get the attention he lacks.

Lehavdil elef havdolos, besides everything else, Reb Chaim Pinchos Scheinberg is one of the few of his generation to have grown up in the US before the post World War 2 period and to have remained a Torah true Jew. He has merited to see a revival of Torah Judaism that he would never have expected to have seen, and he is indeed an integral part of this revival.

May this godol beYisroel who survived not the fire of the Shoah but rather the water of American assimilation be with us ad bias hagoel!

By: cprntr

cprntr — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:57:08 +0000

mikey72,

Basic fundamentals of Torah are the 13 ikarim,

Not tzadikim bringing shefa into the world.

By: cprntr

cprntr — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:55:38 +0000

I think alot of people posting right now are being overly sensitive and missing the point of #4 and #7.

Of course the gedolim are like gems which shine our lives with inspiration. Even if they live to 120 it would not be enough time to gain wisdom from them.

The point of the posts was to put the situation into perspective and not cry that the sky is falling. WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE RABBANIM AND GEDOLIM TO GUIDE US.

It’s sad that people judge each other so quickly, especially after tisha b’av. What ever happened to being dan ‘chaf zchut.

Really shamefull…..

By: mikey72

mikey72 — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:00:00 +0000

#4 moshe mulva ‘
there are very fundamental things in our mesorah about the effect such a man of torah has on the world, giving it shefa, protecting it from harm, giving all of clall yisroel a better connection to the boireh oylam. i think the question isn’t who had shaychus w/ R Sheinberg but rather who didn’t have shaychus w\ him.any yid w/ a neshama benefits from the tzaddik whether we know him or not.ask you’re local orthodox rabbi for more details.

By: Harotzehbilumshmo

Harotzehbilumshmo — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:37:27 +0000

To Moshe Mi Umar LdVorim Alu: I think that you are missing one of the basic beliefs in Yiddishkeit which in turn Chazal call an Apikores. We know that Chazal tell us that one who says mai ahni lan rabanan, what do rabanan help us, is an apikores. We know that the aroh hakodesh in the bais Hamikdosh had no function yet was the source of the hashroas hashechina for all of the world, bringing with it limitless “hashpoah” of kedusha and protection for klal yisroel. Rabbi Scheinberg (although correct, I and many others have not spoken or dealt with him ever or in a very long time) is one of the preeminent talmidei chachomin/ poskim/ roshei hayeshiva of our generation. I think that your comment “borders” on mai ahni lan rabanan, what do rabanan as one who appreciates d’ahani lan rabbanan could never make such a comment.

By: Matisyohu28

Matisyohu28 — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:22:19 +0000

I am thoroughly reoulsed by such a sentiment as ‘well, people are old..’ – gedolim are not just people – in nay other generation, no one would have spoken that way. No one would have the chutzpah to speak about the gedolei hador in that way – we DO need the gedolim, their zchusim, their clearer outlook and wisdom – maybe the poster who nonchalantly spoke that way does not think we need the gedolim, but they are of such unimaginable importance..

every time we lose a gadol, we get covered by a deeper veil, our connection to hashem is weakened, and we suffer – the shechina suffers, and the entire world loses a part of its foundation(tzadik yesod haolam).

You’d better write a retraction. A gadol in danger at an older age is not comparable to old goyim, which is what you sound like you’re doing with that sentiment.

By: halpern

halpern — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:04:19 +0000

my rosh yeshiva is a talmid of rabbi scheinberg shlita and is both very close and lives near him, I just phoned him. he says that rabbi scheinberg shlita is doing well and should be leave hospital iyh on tuesday.

he never collapsed he had high fever and was shaking they then called the doctor who upoun examining him made him go straight to hospital

By: hml

hml — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:24:58 +0000

To be fair, even though #4 didn’t express himself well, I understand what he means (I think.) It is terrible when a Tzaddik/Gaon takes ill & we all, quite rightly, beit the Aibishter to have Rachumnes on him & thereby, on us.

However, we are all mortal & until Moshiach comes people do R”L get ill & sometimes the outcome is bad. NOW PLEASE READ WHAT I WRITE CAREFULLY.

The real tragedy is the young person who hasn’t had a chance to inspire us & make us better people. The 2 wonderful young wives who passed away recently aged 24 & 26 in 1 month in Crown Heights is a perfect example.

OF COURSE we cry when a holy person takes ill. But we are all holy Neshomos & the Aibishter must protect us all…the Gedolim to whom we turn for guidance & the young people to whom we look for the future.

May the Rav have an IMMEDIATE refuah so he can continue his holy work & bentch us all as we approach Chodesh Elul & the days before Tishrei. I am saying Tehillim for his Refuah along with thousands worldwide & G-d will surely listen.