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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: Obama Blasts Agriprocessors</title>
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		<title>By: veryinteresting</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very fair and reasonable posts by many posters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very fair and reasonable posts by many posters.</p>
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		<title>By: veryinteresting</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[veryinteresting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RIDICULOUS and PROVOCATIVE!  Obama did not &quot;blast&quot; Agriproccesors.  YWN&#039;s own article said he &quot;alluded&quot; to them indirectly when asked a question about illegal workers.

Obama said, “We’ve got to crack down on employers who are taking advantage of undocumented workers,” he said. “When you read about a meatpacking plant hiring 13-year-olds, 14-year-olds – that is some of the most dangerous, difficult work there is. … They have kids in there wielding buzz saws and cleavers? It’s ridiculous. And the only reason they’re hiring these folks is because they want to avoid paying people decent wages and providing them decent benefits.”

He is right and let&#039;s not be juvenile.    You cannot tell me that financial &quot;scrupulousness&quot; among many businesses in our community step out of bounds with objective reality or labor laws.  

While there most certainly are antisemites who point to Jews like pointer dogs on the hunt, everytime our community members have to be &quot;corrected&quot; by the law, it is not always antisemitism. 

A lot of times we schmooze local and state goverment and get a pass others groups dont get, but we cant do that all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIDICULOUS and PROVOCATIVE!  Obama did not &#8220;blast&#8221; Agriproccesors.  YWN&#8217;s own article said he &#8220;alluded&#8221; to them indirectly when asked a question about illegal workers.</p>
<p>Obama said, “We’ve got to crack down on employers who are taking advantage of undocumented workers,” he said. “When you read about a meatpacking plant hiring 13-year-olds, 14-year-olds – that is some of the most dangerous, difficult work there is. … They have kids in there wielding buzz saws and cleavers? It’s ridiculous. And the only reason they’re hiring these folks is because they want to avoid paying people decent wages and providing them decent benefits.”</p>
<p>He is right and let&#8217;s not be juvenile.    You cannot tell me that financial &#8220;scrupulousness&#8221; among many businesses in our community step out of bounds with objective reality or labor laws.  </p>
<p>While there most certainly are antisemites who point to Jews like pointer dogs on the hunt, everytime our community members have to be &#8220;corrected&#8221; by the law, it is not always antisemitism. </p>
<p>A lot of times we schmooze local and state goverment and get a pass others groups dont get, but we cant do that all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: mosh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mosh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The worst part is that he never called Agri to make his research if the story is true,thats called a faker]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst part is that he never called Agri to make his research if the story is true,thats called a faker</p>
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		<title>By: theprof1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theprof1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t condone Agriprocessors. But isn&#039;t it interesting that Obama is taking the case of Hispanics when the Jews are involved but completelt ignores the much more egregious treatment of fellow blacks in Tyson meat plants or other meat processors who have been abusing their workers for decades?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t condone Agriprocessors. But isn&#8217;t it interesting that Obama is taking the case of Hispanics when the Jews are involved but completelt ignores the much more egregious treatment of fellow blacks in Tyson meat plants or other meat processors who have been abusing their workers for decades?</p>
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		<title>By: Flatbush Bubby</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flatbush Bubby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And now that Barack Obama has revealed his true anti-semitic colors, I wonder how many Jews will still vote for him?  Too many I am afraid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now that Barack Obama has revealed his true anti-semitic colors, I wonder how many Jews will still vote for him?  Too many I am afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: charvona</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charvona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all ICE just raided another site - non-Jewish and arrested 350 No conspiracy. Also, for the skeptics people have already been found guilty at Aggrip.Finally, Obama did not create this problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all ICE just raided another site &#8211; non-Jewish and arrested 350 No conspiracy. Also, for the skeptics people have already been found guilty at Aggrip.Finally, Obama did not create this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plp have no clue as to how great a chilul Hashem this is. Noe clue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plp have no clue as to how great a chilul Hashem this is. Noe clue</p>
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		<title>By: TorasMosheEmess</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TorasMosheEmess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to remind everyone that there were other allegations about agriprocessor&#039;s, none of which have been in any way substantiated, including the accusation that they had a meth drug lab, had explosives on site and were involved in gun running.

So far, all that Agri has actually been legitimately accused of is hiring immigrant workers who presented fraudulent documentation to gain employment. 

Keep in mind, as an employer you CANNOT refuse employment to a hispanic wojrker just because you &quot;suspect&quot; they may be illegal, especially if they present you with documentation that they have a right to work here. Employers have NO WAY of knowing if the documents are real, putting them in a damned if you do/damned if you don&#039;t predicament.

As far as the allegations that agriprocessors purposely violated the law so they could underpay workers, all actual FACTS indicate that they were the HIGHEST paying employer in the area, DID provide benefits to employees, even funding a daycare center for the employees children!

If, and I do say &quot;if,&quot; these new allegations are true, then the underage workers surely had false documents as well. My nephew was already six foot tall when he was 14. Could you have told him from an 18 year old (with papers attesting that he WAS 18)? When I was sixteen I could already grow a beard. I could buy beer (the drinking age was 18 then) and i NEVER got &#039;carded.&quot;

Let us PLEASE remember to judge our fellow Jew favorably.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to remind everyone that there were other allegations about agriprocessor&#8217;s, none of which have been in any way substantiated, including the accusation that they had a meth drug lab, had explosives on site and were involved in gun running.</p>
<p>So far, all that Agri has actually been legitimately accused of is hiring immigrant workers who presented fraudulent documentation to gain employment. </p>
<p>Keep in mind, as an employer you CANNOT refuse employment to a hispanic wojrker just because you &#8220;suspect&#8221; they may be illegal, especially if they present you with documentation that they have a right to work here. Employers have NO WAY of knowing if the documents are real, putting them in a damned if you do/damned if you don&#8217;t predicament.</p>
<p>As far as the allegations that agriprocessors purposely violated the law so they could underpay workers, all actual FACTS indicate that they were the HIGHEST paying employer in the area, DID provide benefits to employees, even funding a daycare center for the employees children!</p>
<p>If, and I do say &#8220;if,&#8221; these new allegations are true, then the underage workers surely had false documents as well. My nephew was already six foot tall when he was 14. Could you have told him from an 18 year old (with papers attesting that he WAS 18)? When I was sixteen I could already grow a beard. I could buy beer (the drinking age was 18 then) and i NEVER got &#8216;carded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let us PLEASE remember to judge our fellow Jew favorably.</p>
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		<title>By: must_hock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[must_hock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[while it may be a chillul hashem, in essence I believ that we have seen his bad side, that he really hates the Jews. please feel free to correct me if i&#039;m wrong]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while it may be a chillul hashem, in essence I believ that we have seen his bad side, that he really hates the Jews. please feel free to correct me if i&#8217;m wrong</p>
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		<title>By: mark levin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark levin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the DNC is feeling really good about their chances of election if this is what they will be worrying about.

Well Obamanation, this wouldnt be a problem if you libs werent so gung ho on allowing illeagals into the country and taking care of them ON OUR DOLLAR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the DNC is feeling really good about their chances of election if this is what they will be worrying about.</p>
<p>Well Obamanation, this wouldnt be a problem if you libs werent so gung ho on allowing illeagals into the country and taking care of them ON OUR DOLLAR.</p>
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