Comments on: Missionary Alert From Yad L’achim

By: UKbloke

UKbloke — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:13:00 +0000

yes. baruchgershom is adopting a dangerous tact. you might be a pro, but amateurs could fall, and be snared by their wicked ways.

By: philhau

philhau — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:35:11 +0000

I fully agree with Thinking out loud; its simply not worth it; you won’t make the guy reverse his position and the danger is there that a stupid as it may sound argument will sit in your brain just too long, although you win the argument.

By: mikebram

mikebram — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:57:35 +0000

Those people aren’t all bad. In their efforts to convert me…they made me frum!
Baruch HaShem for the missionaries! (or at least the ones HaShem sent to me)

By: Thinking out loud

Thinking out loud — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:40:37 +0000

baruchgershom:

Please use caution, and appeal for siyata dishmaya in the process. Brilliant minds of the past, such as Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan ZT”L recommended avoiding the dialogue altogether… since many are trained in the art of confusing people. Many solid G-d fearing people have found themselves shockingly confused – sometimes months or years later.

When Yad L’achim says:

“Do not engage them in any conversations under any circumstances!!!!

Walk away!!!!”

It is due to their painful experiences, R”L.

If you can determine whether or not the person you are talking to was born a Jew, you can be mispallel for them while they blab. That way you are keeping them busy, preventing them from their mission, and maintaining your connection to kedusha, while caring about the neshama of another yid!

Otherwise… playing with fire is a dangerous game.

Shomer Yisroel, Shmor Sh’airis Yisroel, v’al Yo’vad Yisrael, Haomerim Shma Yisroel.

By: baruchgershom

baruchgershom — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:13:31 +0000

Personally, I love it when missionaries try to debate me. I take the offensive and quote various verses from the Tanach — always in Hebrew and English — to show them that it is impossible that the Moshiach has come (basically quoting for them the unfullfilled prophecies that presage the Messianic Age, among them the obviously absent world peace. When they tell me that that will happen when their guy returns, I say, “why should he get a ‘mulligan’ [a golf term for an illegal replay of a shot without penalty] and all of the other people who might have been Moshiach don’t. I find most missionaries have only very limited knowledge of Tanach. Its fun when they get on the defensive, realizing that they’re out of their league. But, before I start, I warn them that that is what will happen. They hate it when people use their own tactics. One guy told me “that’s [not fair], you’re quoting verses I don’t know.”