Comments on: Out Of The Mailbag: Posting The Correct Articles

By: bergie

bergie — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:17:19 +0000

Let’s show the difference between this thread and the other, ending comments right here.

Editors Note: Good point. Comments are now closed.

By: Alizak28

Alizak28 — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:41:03 +0000

I am very grateful for this wonderful letter. It is well written. When I heard the story about your friend, Chaim K, on YWN I was really sadden. The next day someone actually told me the “real facts” and sent me the personal link to it. I went on and couldn’t believe my eyes that such a website would publish such a thing. At first I wondered why Yeshiva World did not post the correct story but then I realized that had they posted it, it would have been Loshon Horah. Thank you Yeshiva World for not posting it and I don’t even believe that website is telling the Emes because there was only one website that had that information on it.

By: pickle

pickle — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:02:22 +0000

And the yetzer harah strikes again… the letter really is very nice and should be publicized. BUT the fact that all those comments are alluding to a specific story and it seems that everyone knows the whos hows and whys is bordering on loshon harah and will definitely pique the curiosity of those who are not aware. Sadly the yetzer harah blinds us by making us think that that the aveiros that we are doing is really l’shem mitzvah!

Let’s just try to keep quite.

By: hadassa

hadassa — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:09:18 +0000

I make it a point not to look at the other news sites!! Baruch Hashem, I don’t even know what incident is being referred to.

In this time of tremendous tzaros, it is not enough for us to daven. We must each take upon ourselves some way to improve. This will surely bring about
yeshuos!!

By: something to say

something to say — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:01:03 +0000

Wow! I thik this one of the best posts ever! I even printed it out!
A person cannot fathom such a tragedy unless it nebach befalls them. And to add to the pain, watching his name and petty details circulate like an old shoe! Yaasher koach to the Yaated for the beautiful article that was written with such temimus and tzidkus, which was then passed around so that all those that were menachem avel and may have heard of the rishus could be wronged in their own eyes!! Chaim K, you did the biggest chessed and I know that many are thanking you behind closed, tear stained faceades!

By: Abisselsaichel

Abisselsaichel — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:49:05 +0000

Regarding YWN’s reporting, generally speaking, the author is correct.

However, their bias regarding the Lakewood housing issue is blatantly apparent. Language such as “graciously hosts” would even be beneath the dignity of the NY Times. Yes, they publicly smeared the owner of that house without first finding out the actual facts.

So as you print your own holier then thou self-advertisement, realize your own imperfections.

A mechilah from YWN is still waiting.

By: plain jew

plain jew — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:46:25 +0000

There is no reason why anyone is allowed to believe this story the way the other news outlets have reported it. It is complete loshon hara and therefore everyone has to believe with his whole heart that it is 100% false.

By: artchill

artchill — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:46:23 +0000

Chaim, first of all may you never know of tzaros again.

If you truly read all comments about this tragic, unfortunate and emotionally draining incident, you would notice that nobody chas v’shalom made fun of, put down the niftar, nor blamed, or cast any negative aspersions about the family. The way almost every comment was focusing on what we as a community can do to prevent further tradgedy from happening. There is so so much rabbonim, yeshiva mashgichim and others can do to watch out for people of their respective yeshivos and communities.

People were writing expressions of pain about the situation, and giving a cry for help for their own well being. Hopeflly, this absolutely devastating tragedy can be used to inspire Nosai B’Ol in our community and a greater sense of achrayus for fellow members of our society.

Mr. Green, what about others you butchered?????

By: Yehudah Green

Yehudah Green — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:43:44 +0000

#15
i’m sad to hear that you are laughing, but i do not envy your seichel

By: Turkeyneck

Turkeyneck — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:43:36 +0000

Ooh, ooh, I must have missed it, what’s the story? What’s the “raid”.

I’m partially kidding, I don’t know the story and i don’t want to know, but I think we should all be a little less yentish about everybody’s business.
I agree with a lot of the letter writer’s sentiments, but I find it disturbing that he is only so livid and bothered when he knows the victim…there’s always someone who knows the victim and there’s always a victim.
This should have bothered him before.

I would add one more point: A reason we love Lashon Hara is that it makes us feel better about our own shortcomings, as in “At least I’m not as messed up as Ploni”. It’s a little pathetic if we have so little real fulfillment and sel-worth that we need to see someone else suffer, or get caught doing something stupid to make us feel good.