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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepthinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To 26 estates:

I guess you don&#039;t follow the Shulchan Aruch, since the Poskim there are no longer with us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 26 estates:</p>
<p>I guess you don&#8217;t follow the Shulchan Aruch, since the Poskim there are no longer with us.</p>
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		<title>By: 26 estates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[26 estates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#7 - you have no idea what you are talking about!!!!! first you list Rabbonim not even alive today so how can he get Hadracha from them. How about telling us who he follows today.

Do you live in Flatbush? Have you been to his Shul? Have you heard his speeches&quot; His choice of words? topics? Have you met his family? If you can answer yes to these questions please share with us where the Hadracha today comes from. If you cannot answer yes to these questions then learn the Rambam on this weeks Parsha on the the Posuk in Bechukosai of Im Bechukosai Timasu (26:15) you will see quite clearly a reason for our Golus.

....and by the way, I hope you know on what topic it was that Rav Miller said what he said. If not check it out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 &#8211; you have no idea what you are talking about!!!!! first you list Rabbonim not even alive today so how can he get Hadracha from them. How about telling us who he follows today.</p>
<p>Do you live in Flatbush? Have you been to his Shul? Have you heard his speeches&#8221; His choice of words? topics? Have you met his family? If you can answer yes to these questions please share with us where the Hadracha today comes from. If you cannot answer yes to these questions then learn the Rambam on this weeks Parsha on the the Posuk in Bechukosai of Im Bechukosai Timasu (26:15) you will see quite clearly a reason for our Golus.</p>
<p>&#8230;.and by the way, I hope you know on what topic it was that Rav Miller said what he said. If not check it out!</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Do you know Rabbi Levin? Have you met him? Why not ask him who he goes to for Hadracha?&quot; 26 estates (no. 6)

I know Rabbi Levin quite well. He follows the Hadracha he personally received from Rav Moshe Feinstein,Rav Avigdor Miller, Kashauer Rav, Debreciner Rov,ZT&quot;L, and many other Gedolim of today, who he consulted here and in Eretz Yisroel.

Rav Miller,ZT&quot;L,once blessed him in public, as follows: &quot;SeCharCha HarBey MeOd!.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you know Rabbi Levin? Have you met him? Why not ask him who he goes to for Hadracha?&#8221; 26 estates (no. 6)</p>
<p>I know Rabbi Levin quite well. He follows the Hadracha he personally received from Rav Moshe Feinstein,Rav Avigdor Miller, Kashauer Rav, Debreciner Rov,ZT&#8221;L, and many other Gedolim of today, who he consulted here and in Eretz Yisroel.</p>
<p>Rav Miller,ZT&#8221;L,once blessed him in public, as follows: &#8220;SeCharCha HarBey MeOd!.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 26 estates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[26 estates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#5 - Do you know Rabbi Levin? Have you met him? Why not ask him who he goes to for Hadracha? Once you have the answer get back to us and let us all know if you want to stick to your statement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 &#8211; Do you know Rabbi Levin? Have you met him? Why not ask him who he goes to for Hadracha? Once you have the answer get back to us and let us all know if you want to stick to your statement.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[26 estates (NO 4): &quot;Levin is also NOT Daas Torah.&quot;

YOU&#039;RE RIGHT. RAV LEVIN IS NOT A TORAH AUTHORITY, BUT HIS REBBES WHO HE CONSULTED AND ADVISED HIM WERE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26 estates (NO 4): &#8220;Levin is also NOT Daas Torah.&#8221;</p>
<p>YOU&#8217;RE RIGHT. RAV LEVIN IS NOT A TORAH AUTHORITY, BUT HIS REBBES WHO HE CONSULTED AND ADVISED HIM WERE.</p>
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		<title>By: 26 estates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[26 estates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#2 - We agree! My point on Lamm is he is NOT Daas Torah but everyone is blaming the Aguda leaders. Mt question was why are we going after just the Aguda. Go after Lamm!!!!! Problem is he agrees with the bill and supports it so Hikind can&#039;s call on him. Levin is also NOT Daas Torah. So we both agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 &#8211; We agree! My point on Lamm is he is NOT Daas Torah but everyone is blaming the Aguda leaders. Mt question was why are we going after just the Aguda. Go after Lamm!!!!! Problem is he agrees with the bill and supports it so Hikind can&#8217;s call on him. Levin is also NOT Daas Torah. So we both agree.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THANK YOU, REB CHAIM WEISS FOR YOUR ELOQUENT AND PASSIONATE, AND TRUTHFUL STATEMENT.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL DON&#039;T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SO PERNICIOUS ABOUT THE &quot;GAYMARRIAGE&quot; BILL--NOW WAITING FINAL APPROVAL IN THE NEW YORK STATE SENATE--HERE IS A LIST:


The Tragic Effects of the Proposed “GayMarriage” Legislation in NY State


1. All sides agree that such a law will set up an irreconcilable conflict between the right to free religious expression and the right to unlimited sexual license, a  newly-created “Civil Right,” which top legal scholars, such as Robert Bork, agree will easily overcome—and ultimately destroy—competing religious rights.

2. This means that religious groups who consider homosexuality immoral and religiously forbidden will feel compelled to close down many of their vital services. Catholic Charities in Boston has closed down its adoption service, rather than obey the State “GayMarriage” law that forces them to serve homosexual “couples.” Our country will lose the crucial services of its faith-based institutions.

3. Religious schools and businesses will be deprived of their right to avoid being flooded with homosexual propaganda and affirmative action mandates.

4. The logic of legally-legitimized sexual license will inexorably lead to the legitimization of even more bizarre perversions of sexual activity, such as incest, pedophilia, polygamy, and three-man “GayMarriages.” The inexorable logic of the “GayMarriage” perversion will force the courts to legalize everything.

5. By officially recognizing “GayMarriage,” we signal our societal approval, which will lead—inevitably—to an increase in the number of children who choose homosexuality, a lifestyle fraught with physical and psychological disorders, with a suicide rate three to four times as high as normal. Compassion alone should urge us to protect our young people from such a tragic and dangerous choice.

6. When traditional marriage is so demeaned, being perceived to be just one more sexual arrangement among others, the link between marriage, procreation, and family is broken, creating a persistent decline in traditional marriages, as evidenced by the Swedish experience, spawning children who use drugs, engage in crime, and form unstable relationships of their own, pathologies which affect everyone in the community.

7. The argument that “If you don’t like it, don’t do it!” is fatally flawed, because whether you do it or not, you will be affected by those who do. To say that, if you don’t like the popular culture then turn it off, is like saying, if you don’t like the smog, stop breathing. Even kids in Amishtown know about Madonna.

8. And, finally—like it or not—we will pay a heavy price for defying G-D’s obvious design for successful living in this world He created. People who believe they can defy natural laws-- like gravity--with impunity, are in for an unpleasant surprise!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU, REB CHAIM WEISS FOR YOUR ELOQUENT AND PASSIONATE, AND TRUTHFUL STATEMENT.</p>
<p>FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL DON&#8217;T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SO PERNICIOUS ABOUT THE &#8220;GAYMARRIAGE&#8221; BILL&#8211;NOW WAITING FINAL APPROVAL IN THE NEW YORK STATE SENATE&#8211;HERE IS A LIST:</p>
<p>The Tragic Effects of the Proposed “GayMarriage” Legislation in NY State</p>
<p>1. All sides agree that such a law will set up an irreconcilable conflict between the right to free religious expression and the right to unlimited sexual license, a  newly-created “Civil Right,” which top legal scholars, such as Robert Bork, agree will easily overcome—and ultimately destroy—competing religious rights.</p>
<p>2. This means that religious groups who consider homosexuality immoral and religiously forbidden will feel compelled to close down many of their vital services. Catholic Charities in Boston has closed down its adoption service, rather than obey the State “GayMarriage” law that forces them to serve homosexual “couples.” Our country will lose the crucial services of its faith-based institutions.</p>
<p>3. Religious schools and businesses will be deprived of their right to avoid being flooded with homosexual propaganda and affirmative action mandates.</p>
<p>4. The logic of legally-legitimized sexual license will inexorably lead to the legitimization of even more bizarre perversions of sexual activity, such as incest, pedophilia, polygamy, and three-man “GayMarriages.” The inexorable logic of the “GayMarriage” perversion will force the courts to legalize everything.</p>
<p>5. By officially recognizing “GayMarriage,” we signal our societal approval, which will lead—inevitably—to an increase in the number of children who choose homosexuality, a lifestyle fraught with physical and psychological disorders, with a suicide rate three to four times as high as normal. Compassion alone should urge us to protect our young people from such a tragic and dangerous choice.</p>
<p>6. When traditional marriage is so demeaned, being perceived to be just one more sexual arrangement among others, the link between marriage, procreation, and family is broken, creating a persistent decline in traditional marriages, as evidenced by the Swedish experience, spawning children who use drugs, engage in crime, and form unstable relationships of their own, pathologies which affect everyone in the community.</p>
<p>7. The argument that “If you don’t like it, don’t do it!” is fatally flawed, because whether you do it or not, you will be affected by those who do. To say that, if you don’t like the popular culture then turn it off, is like saying, if you don’t like the smog, stop breathing. Even kids in Amishtown know about Madonna.</p>
<p>8. And, finally—like it or not—we will pay a heavy price for defying G-D’s obvious design for successful living in this world He created. People who believe they can defy natural laws&#8211; like gravity&#8211;with impunity, are in for an unpleasant surprise!</p>
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		<title>By: 26 estates</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Mr. Weiss. Thank you YWN for posting this letter.

I wish to add that if you watch the Sermon Mr. Hikind gave what is amazing to see is that Dov himself says that if it were solely up to him he would perhaps agree to this bill because he wants people to be happy. He likes when people are happy. It is only because of the Torah that he is against this. 

Dov you blamed your decision and reason for the stand you took on our holy religion. Don&#039;t blame it on Hashem. Say it straight that you personally feel such a lifestyle is disgusting.

I still stand on my principal from all of the other postings on this topic. hikind did his deed. R&#039; Levine said his thing and I have my personal feelings of disgust on the whole mess but I will do nothing in a public way until I am told by those whom I turn to for guidance.

And by the way, why does everything get blamed on the ultra frum by our own people. Has anyone asked what the position of Yeshiva University is taking on this? Check out what Dr. Lamm is on record saying about this bill and that may well explain why Sheldon Silver is fine with the stand he has taken. Two peas in a pod.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr. Weiss. Thank you YWN for posting this letter.</p>
<p>I wish to add that if you watch the Sermon Mr. Hikind gave what is amazing to see is that Dov himself says that if it were solely up to him he would perhaps agree to this bill because he wants people to be happy. He likes when people are happy. It is only because of the Torah that he is against this. </p>
<p>Dov you blamed your decision and reason for the stand you took on our holy religion. Don&#8217;t blame it on Hashem. Say it straight that you personally feel such a lifestyle is disgusting.</p>
<p>I still stand on my principal from all of the other postings on this topic. hikind did his deed. R&#8217; Levine said his thing and I have my personal feelings of disgust on the whole mess but I will do nothing in a public way until I am told by those whom I turn to for guidance.</p>
<p>And by the way, why does everything get blamed on the ultra frum by our own people. Has anyone asked what the position of Yeshiva University is taking on this? Check out what Dr. Lamm is on record saying about this bill and that may well explain why Sheldon Silver is fine with the stand he has taken. Two peas in a pod.</p>
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