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		<title>By: brotherofurs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[great story!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great story!!</p>
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		<title>By: AKA47</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AKA47]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just because you were let off doesn&#039;t mean you shouldn&#039;t be driving safely and following all the traffic laws after all dinay malchusah dinah]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because you were let off doesn&#8217;t mean you shouldn&#8217;t be driving safely and following all the traffic laws after all dinay malchusah dinah</p>
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		<title>By: Shaggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 01:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#7, she wasn&#039;t found not guilty, the charge was dismissed because the officer refused to speak of the incident in which she received a citation.  Whether a person is or is not guilty of an offense, Hashem knows true guilt or true innocence.  I am not so worried about a person trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the courts, but I am tremendously worried when a person tries to deny guilt when Hashem knows there is guilt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7, she wasn&#8217;t found not guilty, the charge was dismissed because the officer refused to speak of the incident in which she received a citation.  Whether a person is or is not guilty of an offense, Hashem knows true guilt or true innocence.  I am not so worried about a person trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the courts, but I am tremendously worried when a person tries to deny guilt when Hashem knows there is guilt.</p>
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		<title>By: grada</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chasdei hashem ki losumnoooooo, ki loi chulu rachamuv.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chasdei hashem ki losumnoooooo, ki loi chulu rachamuv.</p>
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		<title>By: hereorthere</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Her turn came when it did whether tehy showed up on time or not.
But G-d decided to run things in such a way that her turn came up after the cop stopped testifying.
That is hashgacha protis.

Even a leaf does not turn over in teh wind unless G-d decides it will and he decides how many times and exactly where each leaf will finally land.

Col Vchomer for deciding when someones turn will come up in a case of a ticket in court.

Also I remember learning that a person should not constantpy check his money in his wallet, because 
if H-sh-m wants to make a minor miracle and have him put ina few dollars extra it is far easier to make it seem like &quot;he just forgot how much he had&quot; rather then knowing for sure and then suddenly somehow more appeared by a miracle.

But wait.....Wasn&#039;t the exact amount already in the wallet, no matter what?

But G-d decides what is and what is not.
As long as we do not yet &#039;know&#039; there are many possibilities and thus there can be hiden miracles.

So too in court as long as the people did not know for sure exactly when their turn would come, G-d could have it come at any time and he could make a hidden miracle for it to come later, after the cop stopped testifying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her turn came when it did whether tehy showed up on time or not.<br />
But G-d decided to run things in such a way that her turn came up after the cop stopped testifying.<br />
That is hashgacha protis.</p>
<p>Even a leaf does not turn over in teh wind unless G-d decides it will and he decides how many times and exactly where each leaf will finally land.</p>
<p>Col Vchomer for deciding when someones turn will come up in a case of a ticket in court.</p>
<p>Also I remember learning that a person should not constantpy check his money in his wallet, because<br />
if H-sh-m wants to make a minor miracle and have him put ina few dollars extra it is far easier to make it seem like &#8220;he just forgot how much he had&#8221; rather then knowing for sure and then suddenly somehow more appeared by a miracle.</p>
<p>But wait&#8230;..Wasn&#8217;t the exact amount already in the wallet, no matter what?</p>
<p>But G-d decides what is and what is not.<br />
As long as we do not yet &#8216;know&#8217; there are many possibilities and thus there can be hiden miracles.</p>
<p>So too in court as long as the people did not know for sure exactly when their turn would come, G-d could have it come at any time and he could make a hidden miracle for it to come later, after the cop stopped testifying.</p>
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		<title>By: HaKatan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HaKatan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe she made a mistake or had a legal reason for doing what she did and really did not deserve the ticket. 

Therefore, not knowing the dynamics involved nor the actual case, it is foolish and wrong to jump to the conclusion that someone was trying to &quot;get away with something&quot; or to &quot;disrespect the law&quot;. I highly doubt that is the case here.

Whatever the reason, it is clear as day that this was Hashgacha Pratis and Hashem obviously saved him the fine + surcharges and/or points that he/his wife would have received had they been found guilty, and he obviously hadn&#039;t PLANNED to still be baking Matzos and, thus, make his wife late for court. 

There&#039;s no need to jump down the guy&#039;s throat when he&#039;s trying to spread awareness of Hashem&#039;s incredible Hashgacha Pratis and his Hakaras hatov to the Borei Olam for saving himself his hard-earned money when his wife very like did nothing to deserve a ticket (perhaps, only given the circumstances, but nonetheless did not deserve to have been found guilty).

That&#039;s not to imply anything negative about the many hard-working professionals at the NYPD. But there are 2 sides to every story, so she could well have been correct but couldn&#039;t be sure the law would come out on her side, so she was pre-emptively spared the motions of the trial. Is that not something to be take notice of?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe she made a mistake or had a legal reason for doing what she did and really did not deserve the ticket. </p>
<p>Therefore, not knowing the dynamics involved nor the actual case, it is foolish and wrong to jump to the conclusion that someone was trying to &#8220;get away with something&#8221; or to &#8220;disrespect the law&#8221;. I highly doubt that is the case here.</p>
<p>Whatever the reason, it is clear as day that this was Hashgacha Pratis and Hashem obviously saved him the fine + surcharges and/or points that he/his wife would have received had they been found guilty, and he obviously hadn&#8217;t PLANNED to still be baking Matzos and, thus, make his wife late for court. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no need to jump down the guy&#8217;s throat when he&#8217;s trying to spread awareness of Hashem&#8217;s incredible Hashgacha Pratis and his Hakaras hatov to the Borei Olam for saving himself his hard-earned money when his wife very like did nothing to deserve a ticket (perhaps, only given the circumstances, but nonetheless did not deserve to have been found guilty).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to imply anything negative about the many hard-working professionals at the NYPD. But there are 2 sides to every story, so she could well have been correct but couldn&#8217;t be sure the law would come out on her side, so she was pre-emptively spared the motions of the trial. Is that not something to be take notice of?</p>
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		<title>By: intouchwithreality</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 04:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow I was reading through the comments and waiting for somebody to say it.  Finally number 21 said it.  Does anyone have a brain?  Are you using it?  Regardless of why the cop acted like that or if she should&#039;ve gotten the ticket or blah blah blah.  This part is not true &quot;Had we arrived at the court a little earlier, she likely would have been called up before the incident.&quot;  That&#039;s not how traffic courts work- I&#039;ve been to 30 plus cases (only 1 was mine) in 4 diff. states.  You get called up when it&#039;s your turn if you&#039;re not there and didn&#039;t let the court know (and even then it depends) you are found guilty.  Regardless of what time you&#039;re supposed to be at court or what time you get show up your turn is your turn.  That is determined way b/f you went matzah baking (whether that&#039;s a mitzvah or not, just b/c somebody wants to make matzoh so he can sell them to pathmark or shoprite and they get thrown out at the end of yom tov when no one buys them did he fulfill a mitzvah?  Was it even a hecsher mitzvah?  How about somebody who makes all that garbage they sell in Judiaca stores, is that a mitzvah?  It&#039;s a business like any other business- it depends on what the case was here.  Just b/c you&#039;re involved with matzohs or lulavs or oil for chanukah it doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re doing a mitzvah) it&#039;s determined by the clerk of the court based on date/ last name and such.  So this is not like you got on a plane and then got off at the last minute b/c... and that plane flew into the wtc.  This is the fact that you&#039;re wife&#039;s turn was after the cop went nuts and that turn had absolutely nothing to do with your matzah baking as far as any of us know.  Sorry.  Try again.

Is there a din of dinah dmalchusa dinah in this country?  Call R&#039; Dovid Feinstein and ask him.  Or R&#039; Belsky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I was reading through the comments and waiting for somebody to say it.  Finally number 21 said it.  Does anyone have a brain?  Are you using it?  Regardless of why the cop acted like that or if she should&#8217;ve gotten the ticket or blah blah blah.  This part is not true &#8220;Had we arrived at the court a little earlier, she likely would have been called up before the incident.&#8221;  That&#8217;s not how traffic courts work- I&#8217;ve been to 30 plus cases (only 1 was mine) in 4 diff. states.  You get called up when it&#8217;s your turn if you&#8217;re not there and didn&#8217;t let the court know (and even then it depends) you are found guilty.  Regardless of what time you&#8217;re supposed to be at court or what time you get show up your turn is your turn.  That is determined way b/f you went matzah baking (whether that&#8217;s a mitzvah or not, just b/c somebody wants to make matzoh so he can sell them to pathmark or shoprite and they get thrown out at the end of yom tov when no one buys them did he fulfill a mitzvah?  Was it even a hecsher mitzvah?  How about somebody who makes all that garbage they sell in Judiaca stores, is that a mitzvah?  It&#8217;s a business like any other business- it depends on what the case was here.  Just b/c you&#8217;re involved with matzohs or lulavs or oil for chanukah it doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re doing a mitzvah) it&#8217;s determined by the clerk of the court based on date/ last name and such.  So this is not like you got on a plane and then got off at the last minute b/c&#8230; and that plane flew into the wtc.  This is the fact that you&#8217;re wife&#8217;s turn was after the cop went nuts and that turn had absolutely nothing to do with your matzah baking as far as any of us know.  Sorry.  Try again.</p>
<p>Is there a din of dinah dmalchusa dinah in this country?  Call R&#8217; Dovid Feinstein and ask him.  Or R&#8217; Belsky.</p>
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		<title>By: pinay</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the  dina d&#039;malchusa is if you are found guilty you have to pay a ticket. a traffic ticket is not a criminal violation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the  dina d&#8217;malchusa is if you are found guilty you have to pay a ticket. a traffic ticket is not a criminal violation.</p>
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		<title>By: HaLeiVi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HaLeiVi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#17 or ywn613, I guess you don&#039;t celebrate purim either. Where was the divine intervention? The Queen interceded and the king relented. Actually, how about Pesach? Did anyone see a hand come out of heaven? Frogs appeared and animals died! Why don&#039;t you rather celebrate the establishment of &#039;The Greatest City In The World&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 or ywn613, I guess you don&#8217;t celebrate purim either. Where was the divine intervention? The Queen interceded and the king relented. Actually, how about Pesach? Did anyone see a hand come out of heaven? Frogs appeared and animals died! Why don&#8217;t you rather celebrate the establishment of &#8216;The Greatest City In The World&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: mw13</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#2,3,etc. - While getting a ticket is bad, it is very common and happens to almost everybody, as most of us know from personal experience.  Getting a ticket does not make you a terrible person.  And why doesn&#039;t dan likaf zchus apply just as much as dinah dmalchusa dina?

#17 - You can&#039;t be serious. Who do you think made the police officer act like he did?!  Hashem runs this world, and everything in it.  Everything that happens is a decree straight from Hashem, and He has a very good reason for everything He does.  If the 10 makkos happened right now, would you attribute them to Hashem or to freak forces of nature?  What will it take for you to see Hashem&#039;s hand - a hand of fire coming down from the sky?!  We are in galus, everything Hashem does is hidden.  It is crucial to our emunah to always remember that Hashem is running everything behind the scenes, and all is done with a cheshbon.

#23 - If you are so up-in-arms about #2 not being dan likaf zechus on another jew, how can you assume that he/she has a &quot;cross in their heart&quot;, a &quot;goyish pen&quot;, and that you are happy that &quot;your from out of town so the city Jews do not have to deal with you&quot;?!  Where&#039;s YOUR ahavas yisroel?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2,3,etc. &#8211; While getting a ticket is bad, it is very common and happens to almost everybody, as most of us know from personal experience.  Getting a ticket does not make you a terrible person.  And why doesn&#8217;t dan likaf zchus apply just as much as dinah dmalchusa dina?</p>
<p>#17 &#8211; You can&#8217;t be serious. Who do you think made the police officer act like he did?!  Hashem runs this world, and everything in it.  Everything that happens is a decree straight from Hashem, and He has a very good reason for everything He does.  If the 10 makkos happened right now, would you attribute them to Hashem or to freak forces of nature?  What will it take for you to see Hashem&#8217;s hand &#8211; a hand of fire coming down from the sky?!  We are in galus, everything Hashem does is hidden.  It is crucial to our emunah to always remember that Hashem is running everything behind the scenes, and all is done with a cheshbon.</p>
<p>#23 &#8211; If you are so up-in-arms about #2 not being dan likaf zechus on another jew, how can you assume that he/she has a &#8220;cross in their heart&#8221;, a &#8220;goyish pen&#8221;, and that you are happy that &#8220;your from out of town so the city Jews do not have to deal with you&#8221;?!  Where&#8217;s YOUR ahavas yisroel?</p>
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