Comments on: Chillul Hashem At Great Adventures

By: Morah 2

Morah 2 — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:01:16 +0000

I have a great idea -I am actually motivated to contact the promoters of the events to try to implement this as well- Why not have all tickets being sold at all the heimishe grocery stores/seforim stores etc. have an accompanying note that’s short and sweet imploring all Jews who use these tkts to act like menchin (culturally…waiting in line, speaking appropriately, acting with respect to other fellow human beings…whatever). Also…a few signs posted at the entrance of the park in both Hebrew and Yiddish wouldn’t hurt and would avoid embarressing the frum Jews. Also, on all signs advertising such events, put a little short message about appropriate behavior. Probably most important however is to have respectful behavior (what’s missing for most holier than thou ppl is the respect thing) taught in school and at home -much more effective albiet longer term solution. Short term however, post it explicitly and TELL ppl how to act. You’d be surprised how many mindless ppl will actually simply listen to directions when simply given. There’s no genuine thought necessarilly going on, but hey -who cares? As long as a larger % of ppl act appropriately for that day. And no, lack of respect is not indiginous to yeshivishe/chassidishe ppl; yes it’s everywhere…but it definitely has taken a foothold in those two worlds (yes, of which I’m a part) and that reality must be dealt with if even short term as per my suggestion here. A gut yor to all -I just saw this article now, just in time for Sukkos!

By: arealproudjew

arealproudjew — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:46:36 +0000

dear telegrok, please bring at least one mareh makom to what your saying. i personally think you made it up on the spot since they only mean our good, who cares where it comes from. thats what the rules are for.

By: cmsl92

cmsl92 — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:16:05 +0000

What else is new – everybody has heard of the chassidim who gamble in AC in their full chassidic regalia – this is nothing new! Just look at the driving on the way up to the mountains and you will see that obviously nobody is concerned with chillul hashem.

By: katlakanya1750

katlakanya1750 — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:52:38 +0000

I do not justify the behaviors, but there may be a cultural difference here. When I go to Eretz Yisroel I notice that there is not really a concept of waiting in line for a bus there. At first this seemed the epitomy of rudeness to me, but further though on the matter has changed my opinion. I was brought up as a Jew and as an American. I was taught that not to wait in a line is rude. I internalized this teaching. It is definitely not something that I learned in yeshiva. In eretz yisroel that is not what the people do. It is not wrong in eretz yisroel to not wait on line. In other cultures such as Japan, people wait on line to cross the street. It is not considered rude in america too not wait on line to cross the street. It would be considered silly to wait on line for crossing the street. Littering is not consiidered rude in all countries or places nor is not waiting in line. People need to be taught these thigs before one can consider condemming them.

By: sephardicpride

sephardicpride — Mon, 31 May 2010 17:54:05 +0000

Avigail: parhaps disabled kids would like to enjoy chal Hamoed just liek everyone else?

By: Avigail

Avigail — Wed, 12 May 2010 00:21:04 +0000

#43 – Why in the world would you take 50 disabled kids to Great Adventures on a jam-packed Chol Hamoed trip?

It’s over-crowded, over-stimulating and over-priced!

Why not go on a quiet regular day when it’s empty and the kids can really enjoy themselves?

By: seeallsides

seeallsides — Mon, 10 May 2010 21:58:59 +0000

Sorry – there is a lot of positive things about frum people going to public places, but unfortunately, and it is not always anybody’s fault, there is too much trash, and line crossing. I am embarrassed to pass some of our little childrens’ playgrounds after recess, where the snack bags are all ON THE FLOOR. I am always picking up papers in the bathroom at weddings. We can’t defend this behavior by justifying it -too few garbage cans, don’t point fingers and don’t be a self hating jew. It is a real problem, i know parents and rebbeim are ‘picking their battles’ but if you don’t stress mentchlichkeit, you can’t expect to raise ‘mentchen’

By: grada

grada — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:48:43 +0000

telegrok,
ur completely insane, you have to make a kiddush hashem. And no, ur not better than everyone else

By: bagels

bagels — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 03:14:39 +0000

I was in the park that day with my family. I did not notice any yeshivish people at all. Yeshivish people as defined as people learning in Yeshiva basically full time, most cannot afford the entrance fees to the park. What I did notice was a very well dressed Chassidish woman speaking English with a Yiddish-Boro Park accent cutting the line at customer service (which had a two hour wait time) with the entire line of people including religious people yelling at her. I also noticed about 40 Syrian students, with the females dressed in pants and t-shirts making a ruckus at that same customer service line. So these are not Yeshivish people making the chillul hashem. It was all types! Don’t classify Yeshivish as unruly-middos come in all shapes and sizes.

By: shimen

shimen — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:10:34 +0000

#41, #44..wasnt moshe rabbeinu penelized for talking loshen horah against the yidden ‘veyotzio michayko vehiney metzoras kashelek’?