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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 19:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nameless,

If he had been a white guy, the cops would not have gone to jail for rightfully defending themselves from a violent felon. And if he had been a white guy on drugs acting violently towards the arresting Officers he would have not been shown any more mercy. King was on drugs at the time, acting violently towards the Police as a result. The cops couldn&#039;t risk him grabbing a gun or otherwise injuring one of them. He got what he deserved. The Officers were railroaded due to minority groups RIOTING in LA. The Officers were ACQUITTED at trial, and despite protections against DOUBLE JEOPARDY, they were tried again on nuanced laws. The government was afraid of another RIOT.

I completely agree with you that we are in golus and are subject to the taunts and violence of our gentile neighbors wherever we may be (including the Holy Land most unfortunately.) But you also must realize that at different junctures throughout our long and painful exile, there have been some malchus&#039; that welcomes us with open-arms, others that barely tolerated us, and others that showed us violence and expulsion. There was always a &quot;medinah shel chesed&quot; throughout our history. When one madman ruler killed and expelled us, miraculously another medinah suddenly welcomed us. Look at the times during the Spanish Expulsion/Inquisition as one prime example. In todays world, the United States of America is that medina shel chesed (this of course is subject to change, but various Tzaddikim for previous generations predicted that America would be the last golus before Moshiach.) Europe on the other hand, today unfortunately (and for the past 60+ years) falls into the barely tolerated/violence category.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nameless,</p>
<p>If he had been a white guy, the cops would not have gone to jail for rightfully defending themselves from a violent felon. And if he had been a white guy on drugs acting violently towards the arresting Officers he would have not been shown any more mercy. King was on drugs at the time, acting violently towards the Police as a result. The cops couldn&#8217;t risk him grabbing a gun or otherwise injuring one of them. He got what he deserved. The Officers were railroaded due to minority groups RIOTING in LA. The Officers were ACQUITTED at trial, and despite protections against DOUBLE JEOPARDY, they were tried again on nuanced laws. The government was afraid of another RIOT.</p>
<p>I completely agree with you that we are in golus and are subject to the taunts and violence of our gentile neighbors wherever we may be (including the Holy Land most unfortunately.) But you also must realize that at different junctures throughout our long and painful exile, there have been some malchus&#8217; that welcomes us with open-arms, others that barely tolerated us, and others that showed us violence and expulsion. There was always a &#8220;medinah shel chesed&#8221; throughout our history. When one madman ruler killed and expelled us, miraculously another medinah suddenly welcomed us. Look at the times during the Spanish Expulsion/Inquisition as one prime example. In todays world, the United States of America is that medina shel chesed (this of course is subject to change, but various Tzaddikim for previous generations predicted that America would be the last golus before Moshiach.) Europe on the other hand, today unfortunately (and for the past 60+ years) falls into the barely tolerated/violence category.</p>
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		<title>By: nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nameless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 15:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jos,

Actually, King, who DID have a criminal record was unarmed at the time and reached out for a weapon of one of the cops on sight to protect himself but to no avail. I am just wondering if the beating would have been so excessive had he been a white guy with the name &#039;James Burbank III&#039;

My point is that even the &#039;medinah shel chesed&#039; is never exempt  from any anti semitic suspicions as long as we are in Galus., JUST
because they have a less violent past towards Jews than Europe does. why dont you look past the city of New York where the Southern States and their KKK commited such horrible acts against Jews and other minorities,? You&#039;ll realize that Golus is no blessing anywhere.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jos,</p>
<p>Actually, King, who DID have a criminal record was unarmed at the time and reached out for a weapon of one of the cops on sight to protect himself but to no avail. I am just wondering if the beating would have been so excessive had he been a white guy with the name &#8216;James Burbank III&#8217;</p>
<p>My point is that even the &#8216;medinah shel chesed&#8217; is never exempt  from any anti semitic suspicions as long as we are in Galus., JUST<br />
because they have a less violent past towards Jews than Europe does. why dont you look past the city of New York where the Southern States and their KKK commited such horrible acts against Jews and other minorities,? You&#8217;ll realize that Golus is no blessing anywhere&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 07:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nameless,

Actually Rodney King, a violent felon with a complete violent criminal background, deserved the beating he got after he tried to kick and beat the cops attempting to arrest him. In that case, the cops were railroaded by the justice system due to minority groups pressure.

In any event, as you mentioned, with America being a medina shel chesed while Europe having a history past and present of being an ongoing hotbed of anti-semitic violence, you can cut the United States a bit more slack in incidents where the motive is not entirely clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nameless,</p>
<p>Actually Rodney King, a violent felon with a complete violent criminal background, deserved the beating he got after he tried to kick and beat the cops attempting to arrest him. In that case, the cops were railroaded by the justice system due to minority groups pressure.</p>
<p>In any event, as you mentioned, with America being a medina shel chesed while Europe having a history past and present of being an ongoing hotbed of anti-semitic violence, you can cut the United States a bit more slack in incidents where the motive is not entirely clear.</p>
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		<title>By: nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nameless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 07:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;The cop knows that a frum Yid would most probably not pull a gun on him,,,,,&#039;

Your right! and even a call from &#039;BETH ISRAEL&#039; Hospital to confirm the fact didnt help him. You&#039;d think a decent unarmed citizen with reliable sources to back him up would be dealt witha bit more civilly, especially in
a country where there are so many armed fellons,,,,,,,

Was the Rodney King case in the early 90s, also just &#039;police brutaltiy&#039;???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The cop knows that a frum Yid would most probably not pull a gun on him,,,,,&#8217;</p>
<p>Your right! and even a call from &#8216;BETH ISRAEL&#8217; Hospital to confirm the fact didnt help him. You&#8217;d think a decent unarmed citizen with reliable sources to back him up would be dealt witha bit more civilly, especially in<br />
a country where there are so many armed fellons,,,,,,,</p>
<p>Was the Rodney King case in the early 90s, also just &#8216;police brutaltiy&#8217;???</p>
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		<title>By: nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nameless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 05:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joseph and Hakatan,

In Israel an incident like these would be considered Anti Religious,,
In Europe it would be considered &#039;RAMPANT&#039; antisemitism,
But ofcourse in America, its only police brutaltiy:)))
Look , I am not implying that it is Anti semitism for 100 per cent certainty, All I am saying is that you cant know for sure. That specific officer could have just happened to have gotten disgusted at that particular moment and just because it happened before to non Jews doesnt mean that this was just &#039;another case&#039; of animallike behaviour . You can never be sure !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph and Hakatan,</p>
<p>In Israel an incident like these would be considered Anti Religious,,<br />
In Europe it would be considered &#8216;RAMPANT&#8217; antisemitism,<br />
But ofcourse in America, its only police brutaltiy:)))<br />
Look , I am not implying that it is Anti semitism for 100 per cent certainty, All I am saying is that you cant know for sure. That specific officer could have just happened to have gotten disgusted at that particular moment and just because it happened before to non Jews doesnt mean that this was just &#8216;another case&#8217; of animallike behaviour . You can never be sure !</p>
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		<title>By: YaakovM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YaakovM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why I am not surprised, I have had my own personal experices with the Bummbling police officers of the 70th Precinct. Total mishandling of a police accident report, being abandoned with an EDP on the back of an ambulance. and the police refuing to let me take a suicided victim to the hospital. 
Maybe it&#039;s time to transfer everybody out of the precint and send them up to the bronx.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why I am not surprised, I have had my own personal experices with the Bummbling police officers of the 70th Precinct. Total mishandling of a police accident report, being abandoned with an EDP on the back of an ambulance. and the police refuing to let me take a suicided victim to the hospital.<br />
Maybe it&#8217;s time to transfer everybody out of the precint and send them up to the bronx.</p>
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		<title>By: Itzik_s</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Itzik_s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not anti semitism per se. What it is is a case of a cop trying to make an easy arrest and advance his career and standing by arresting someone who will not put a cop&#039;s life in danger. The cop knows that a frum Yid would most probably not pull a gun on him, whereas the dusky citizen who is peddling 400 Vicodin is crazed on the stuff himself and armed to the teeth. So, Simon Weiss gets arrested, and Leroy Brown is free until he really does something outrageous or meets his end via street justice or the effects of what he pushes.

The quality of NY cops is sadly sinking, as the descendants of the old Irish cops are now working on Wall Street (which is what America is about), and the replacements are increasingly drawn from a less and less fit candidate pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not anti semitism per se. What it is is a case of a cop trying to make an easy arrest and advance his career and standing by arresting someone who will not put a cop&#8217;s life in danger. The cop knows that a frum Yid would most probably not pull a gun on him, whereas the dusky citizen who is peddling 400 Vicodin is crazed on the stuff himself and armed to the teeth. So, Simon Weiss gets arrested, and Leroy Brown is free until he really does something outrageous or meets his end via street justice or the effects of what he pushes.</p>
<p>The quality of NY cops is sadly sinking, as the descendants of the old Irish cops are now working on Wall Street (which is what America is about), and the replacements are increasingly drawn from a less and less fit candidate pool.</p>
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		<title>By: chalebeebe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chalebeebe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think if it happened to an African-American it would be on national television]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think if it happened to an African-American it would be on national television</p>
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		<title>By: nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nameless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hakatan,

Anti semitism doesnt really suit me whether in Europe or anywhere else. 
You say Americans have a&#039;live and let live attitude&#039;, I totally agree! Freedom of speech is perfectly fine and its not a crime to deny the Holocaust whereas in Europe it is, but we dont have to dwell on that!

Due to the fact that America is a Medinah Shel Chesed and tolerance is one of the basic foundations of the constitution, there might be abit more discretion! However, if you think the average Joe Shmoe THERE likes you more than the ones HERE , I think your makinga big mistake!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hakatan,</p>
<p>Anti semitism doesnt really suit me whether in Europe or anywhere else.<br />
You say Americans have a&#8217;live and let live attitude&#8217;, I totally agree! Freedom of speech is perfectly fine and its not a crime to deny the Holocaust whereas in Europe it is, but we dont have to dwell on that!</p>
<p>Due to the fact that America is a Medinah Shel Chesed and tolerance is one of the basic foundations of the constitution, there might be abit more discretion! However, if you think the average Joe Shmoe THERE likes you more than the ones HERE , I think your makinga big mistake!</p>
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		<title>By: susshow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[susshow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nameless, are you ever right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nameless, are you ever right?</p>
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