Comments on: Judge Denies New Trial for Rubashkin

By: cherrylight

cherrylight — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 01:34:48 +0000

just daven for him

By: LashonTov

LashonTov — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:24:52 +0000

One needs to ask why Hashem would let this happen? Why has Hashem placed an honest and generous person to be hounded and demonized by forces apparently bent on destroying him ? Where do we look for the answer?

As many have pointed out, what has happened to Sholom Rubashkin is the misuse of the secular legal system by a powerful entity. But why has Hashem permitted such forces be used to torment and afflict such a man as he is described to be?

We know that not every incident of the times of the Neviim was written, only those of impact to learn from. One incident was the defeat at the Battle of Ai where Yair ben Menashe, who was like 36 men, was killed. Yehoshua searched for the answer and found that the greed of Achan ha’Achar and the inattention of the Bnai Yisrael to his actions brought about the death of a man who was like 36 men who had nothing to do with what Achan did.

As we learned recently on the front page of the Yated, the Justice Department and Judge Reade became Sholom Rubashkin’s tzar in October 2007. At the very same time, a national Jewish organization also began use of the secular justice system to undermine the verdict of of a Din Torah they had tried to hide for three years!

Sholom Rubashkin’s tzar deeply affects Klal Yisrael. We learn from many gedolim of another place where indifference affects the bystander and that is when a widow is afflicted.
At the end of a column in the Yated recently it said “Let us also resolve to unify as we never have before, so that we can use the tools at our disposal to overturn the abuses of power that have harmed our community and individuals such as Sholom Mordechai.” We have tools at our disposal that have been used to do as much we can for Sholom Rubashkin and yet his fate is still unclear. We need to apply those tools now to help the widow afflicted by the national leadership of the Jewish and we will also help Sholom Mordechai. And to the leadership at NCYI, learn the lesson Yehoshua taught to Achan ben Carmi.

By: ignitor

ignitor — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:42:59 +0000

maybe he should be quiet already;enough chillul

By: mastergary

mastergary — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:56:01 +0000

#2: you idiot, how can you make such a statement, in English, in a forum which can be read by all. Second, America has been a haven for us and contiues to be a place were we can practice our religeon freely. Third, many of our own people, including the Avi Weiss crowd, were responsible for bringinging Rubashkin down.

By: crazykanoiy

crazykanoiy — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:00:41 +0000

#14 Because of one case of injustice you condemn the entire America? Shalom Rubashkin commited crimes. Unfourtanatley he suffered an injustice of extremely harsh sentencing at the hands of an overzealous prosecutor and Judge. This is not a problem that only affects Jews, many other people in Iowa and other states have been subject to prosecutional excesses. Where do you get this idea that “they probably want to throw us all out”?

#2 If you hate America than leave. Why not go back to the beautiful life of Poland and Lita. Do you yearn for the days of Pogroms, Cossaks, Crusades, Blood Libels, Murder and Theft? Perhaps if you had a proper understanding of History you would appreciate the country that is America.

By: mosheemes2

mosheemes2 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:44:40 +0000

The attorney general does not have the power to commute sentences. I’m not sure where people here could have gotten that idea from in the first place.

By: Ben Torah

Ben Torah — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:42:08 +0000

#12: especially in an open forum #18: posting it on a public site Next time I'll post in in a private forum.

By: mommaknows

mommaknows — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:41:34 +0000

Does anyone know how we could help Mr. Holder make the right decision? Where can I write, any suggestions?

By: mezapelyeshua

mezapelyeshua — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:04:58 +0000

#2 There may be freedom of speech in America but not in Klal Yisroel. Yidden have to be supremely careful as to what comes out their mouths and off their pens and keyboards. Even if there was merit to your comment, which there is not, posting it on a public site is foolish and dangerous to all of us.
Ask people who have lived elsewhere, both Jew and non-Jew, how much we have to be thankful for living in this country. Just the fact that you could make that comment without fear emphasizes how fortunate we are.

By: YaakovEmuna

YaakovEmuna — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:59:09 +0000

The US court system requires the appeal of any issue to first be heard by the original Judge… 25% of the time a Judge will adjust what happened, the other 75% they will deny (which is expected) and then it would be appealed and heard by another Judge…

The Judge said, if I have read the ruling correctly, that Rubashkins appeal on the issue, although it might be right (even though she denied it is) would not alter the facts of the case in regards to the fraud issues. Thus there is no need for a retrial.

Rubashkin’s attorney’s must show that the error would change the outcome… to date they have not shown this.

We must hope that Eric Holder steps in, whereas, there is no evidence that suggests if the trial was held again by a different Judge/Jury that the outcome would be different, therefore, Rubaskin’s only hope (other than Ribono Shel Olam) is that Eric Holder rules that the sentence was excessive, thus reducing his sentence to time served, which would be more in line with the charges against him.

May Shalom Mordecai Rubashkin and all other Jew’s being held in prison be released forthwith.