why are you so bent on always writing about how “evil” the Jews are (Chas V’Shalom) for sending poor sweet innocent russians to Siberia?

no, I don’t call you a “Jew hater” — I let your words speak for themselves!

I am not going to revoke what I said, I will only clarify it. My point is that none of you, not even those who went through the war and the camps themselves (and I assume that it was a true post, not that someone called himself a ‘survivor’ to make his argument more “weighty”) can really talk about it in the manner you talk about it. It is not for us to judge entire people, be it Poles, Russians, Americans, the same way as it is not proper to judge us, Jews, on the basis (and it is factual and undeniable) that many of us participated actively and enthusiastically in sending millions of innocent people to concentration camps in Siberia and other parts of Soviet Union in the 30-50s.
Only a person who has been in a situation where his life, or worse, the life of his wife and children, was threatened but he still did not bend the truth and did not join the killers – only such a person can talk about who is guilty and who is not. Churban/Shoa is a tragedy but unfortunately it is only our tragedy. It is also a very personal matter, how many times have I seen people yawning or being seemingly bored during discussions of Holocaust, you cannot make somebody feel it, it is a personal matter, not something for lecturing about or a contest with scoring points. Again, it is impossible to compare one tradegy to another but you can feel it, if it’s your own. No one will ever understand a Jew who has been through it, and no one will ever understand a mother who lost her child in a car accident. For that mother the loss of her child is the loss of entire world..

If we had let Hitler YM”S take away that part of us, he would have won!! b”h we are only given tests that we can overcome, Hashem has a reason for everything that he does, its all part of his master plan. Sometimes some people are zocha to get a small glimpse of the master plan and they are able to see how beautiful it truly is.

The memories of the holocaust may fade but the master plans reasoning defiantly caries on. We as Jews have always gone thru hard times, sufferings, killing and driven out of lands but we are still here (what does that tell you) being a Jew is never easy and Hashem doesn’t blame those who can’t make it. The Jewish people have many qualities that the rest of the world doesn’t have; do you think it just came to us one day? No it has taken many centuries to become who we are.

So yes, subject of the Holocaust will fade just as the Spanish inquisitions and the pogroms and all the countless other times we have been persecuted, just don’t forget that the effects are in our bodies forever and will carry on for all generations until we merit Mashiach.

I admire you! How can you forgive such an insenstive careless post,? As a child of Holocaust survivors, I visited Aushwitz and Birkenau recently. I’ve seen every movie, read every book and took every course available on this subject and ‘I’ have a difficult time forgiving. You people are truly inspirational. My fear is that after the survivors pass on, the subject of the Holocaust will fade and possibly merit only one paragraph in a history book. Please, please continue to inspire this generation with your courage and stamina ‘ad biyas Goyel’. G-d Bless you.

POST NOS. 21 IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE!!

There is a beautiful clip on ‘you tube’ of Chazzan Helfgott singing Kel Moleh Rachamim for the Kedoshim at the Siyum Hashass a few years ago.

Oberika,
Yes, many gentiles died in the war but they died as casualties of war while we were exterminated. The Nazi’s searched out every single Yid out there and sent them to the death camps, how can you compare the two.

I have only forgiveness in my heart for you; no one can blame all the yiden who went thru the war and came out not frum, what they saw and went thru will NOT be discussed here. NO ONE CAN JUDGE THEM!!!! We as humans cannot judge other humans, that is only for Hashem to do.

YW editor has received complaints in the past over choice of language used and has made corrections. additionally, there are times when posts contain information that should not be allowed, and after this being pointed out, they were removed.

your comments were posted. why, I do not know – this site serves the public, however, it is not owned and operated by the public.

regarding wikipedia – don’t start quoting wikipedia, everybody knows that wikipedia is a user controlled website and people can post whatever they want – true/false or somewhere inbetween.

lastly, your post(#21) to a survivor: HOW DARE YOU! that was 100% uncalled for! Be glad that I am not the YW Editor, I would ban you for life for that post alone!

She was there, so I’ll take her word for it.