Comments on: Radio Host Gazit Free Of Libel Concerns For Calling Chareidim ‘Leeches & Worms’

By: RamatShilo

RamatShilo — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:26:41 +0000

one should learn torah without question… however it is not your responsibility nor mine, nor the governments to support you….if you want to learn 24/7 – kol hakavod- but make sure you have someone to support you… you cant become a leech on society… besides… i drive through ramat beit shemesh Bet every single day — there are literally hundreds of ppl walking the streets bored… they on principle wont work but god knows not learning 24-7… there are guys that are learning all day and nite– those are the exceptions not the norm….

By: minyan gal

minyan gal — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:57:38 +0000

I am confused. I thought that learning Torah was for one’s personal growth and spiritual well being – between oneself and Hashem. Unless you are a teacher or Rabbi and pass this knowledge along to another generation of students, how exactly does studying benefit the state?

By: YonasonW

YonasonW — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:56:01 +0000

…on the hospiality of others.

By: YonasonW

YonasonW — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:54:11 +0000

ahavas_yisroel….let’s concede your point…and still ask how you think the subsidy/conscription situation in Eretz Yisroel looks to the majority of Jrws there who would not concede your point?

I point to the two following definitions:

Leech: a person who clings to another for personal gain, especially without giving anything in return, and usually with the implication or effect of exhausting the other’s resources; parasitic.

Parasite: a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality

By: ahavas_yisroel

ahavas_yisroel — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:10:02 +0000

#2m you don’t seem to understand that the Torah that is learned by the Yeshiva people is what is keeping Eretz Yisrael on the map. Those guys that are sitting and learning are doing just as difficult and admirable a job as the IDF. WE NEED THEM DESPERATELY! You seem to have bought into the zionist way of looking at Talmidei Chachamim

And there are plenty of Charedim that do work, just by the way.

By: optimusprime

optimusprime — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:16:47 +0000

To #2

The contribution of Torah study by the Chareidi community is more than enough contribution to the state of Israel.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:08:41 +0000

NOTE that the Israeli Supeme Court did not rule that “Free speech” prevails over “Hate speech” (as would be the case under American law). They merely decided that it was at the discretion of the prosecutor which “Hate speech” to prosecute, which is a political decision. If a Hareidi used similar names to attack the hilonim (or if a zionist using similar language for Muslims), it could still be prosecuted

By: RamatShilo

RamatShilo — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:36:09 +0000

i am not defending what he said in anyway…however….if you lived lets say in Brooklyn….and all the Italian’s decided due to their religious beliefs they do not want to work…. and not only dont they want to work, they want all the whites, blacks, spanish people to support them and take care of all their needs (school’s, doctor’s hospitals etc) what would you say? Get a Job….face reality… you cant stay home all day on another account… the same thing is happening here in Israel…. you have 2 segments of the population who arent working… hariedim and arabs… however, as a rule, at least the arabs try to work and get jobs…. their is NO excuse for a jew not to work… the chafetz chaim worked, millions of other rabonim worked… there is ZERO excuse and its completely not acceptable…. the result of a large percentage of the chariedi population not working has resulted in tremendous “Anti chariedi” feeling by the rest of the country…. the rest of the country is taxed 40+ percent, serve in the army for 3+ years..its only fair that EVERYONE contributes evenly

By: Dr. Seuss

Dr. Seuss — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:57:56 +0000

Anti-Chareidi racism is not only acceptable in the “State”, but is actually encouraged.