Comments on: What if a Chareidi Complains of Music in Tel Aviv on Shabbos?

By: PinhasErez

PinhasErez — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:01:08 +0000

If the Avrech is so inclined, Im sure a lawyer will win him some money for false imprisonment etc. But who knows. Under what grounds can a police officer tell you to turn music down before 11pm in Israel? When was lighting? 5pmish!!??
My neighbour has parties and plays music at very high extreme levels of loudness, and the cops say I cant do anything before 11pm. So after 11pm, they also dont do anything. They are worse than he, because he couldnt continure this if they werent enabling it.
Now so thats the fry bor next door.
How about religious jews? When I lived on Shmuel HaNavi in Jerusalem, I was kept up all night isru hag, because Dushinski three buildings over, was doing hakafot shniot until 2pm plus in the morning. Tell me, if you can do hakafot rishonot, without enough boom boxes to fire a rock concert, how come you are doing that to us during your hakafot shniot? They will face din for that. Incredible insensitivity, and chutspah. Do your second circles like your first, I want to sleep, as did several hundred other residents of the neighbourhood.

By: proud orthodox jew

proud orthodox jew — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:39:18 +0000

Until there is a frvm task force set up to trully investigate claims against by the frvm against the police these stories will sadly continue to happen. The task force that investigates claims against the police doesn’t care for the chareidim. When I was brutally attacked by police officers and thought about opening a complaint I was told not to. I was warned that if I went ahead with it I would very likely face some trumped up charges and be thrown out of the country! The democracy that is the state of Israel is trully amazing!

By: Avi K

Avi K — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:25:06 +0000

#1, take him to a din Tora. BTW, I know someone who had a problem with an upstairs neighbor making noise so he made noise when the guy wanted to sleep (later than normal hours). The guy came running down complaining. My acquaintance then offered a deal.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:41:34 +0000

1. Volume and contents are separate issues.

2. I’m sure that if anyone complained about frum music in Tel Aviv, even during the week, he would get a medal. (-:

By: lazerc

lazerc — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:58:37 +0000

I live in Jerusalem. In the building next to me they play this “music”. It is so loud that I can not exist. I have complained to the idiot who does this but he says he is doing a mitzvah.
According to shulchan aruch, a shofar was blown before shabbos. OK, but how many decibels is a shofar? This idiot’s loudspeakers make it impossible for me to function it is so loud. He refuses to turn it down, what can I do? call the police?
Tell me, if he would lower the volume, would he still have a mitzvah or even better is there a mitzvah that can come from an avaira?