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	<title>Comments on: MK Herzog on Tal and the Future Regarding the Chareidi Tzibur</title>
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		<title>By: Milhouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[R Meir Kahane HYD used to call Herzog&#039;s father, Chaim Herzog, חומץ בן יין.

I once saw a picture in the newspaper of a reception that a foreign government gave for Chaim Herzog when he was visiting as Israel&#039;s president; the governor, who was a protestant minister, wore a kipah in Herzog&#039;s honour, while Herzog himself was bareheaded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R Meir Kahane HYD used to call Herzog&#8217;s father, Chaim Herzog, חומץ בן יין.</p>
<p>I once saw a picture in the newspaper of a reception that a foreign government gave for Chaim Herzog when he was visiting as Israel&#8217;s president; the governor, who was a protestant minister, wore a kipah in Herzog&#8217;s honour, while Herzog himself was bareheaded.</p>
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		<title>By: twisted</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twisted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw pashkevillim a while back (provoked by I don&#039;t know what) warning against the terrible ill winds blowing to &quot;take the pure yiddin out of their ghettos which kept them holy&quot;. I get the point, but the language struck me as a little odd. I suppose the next version will have the MK&#039;s name in bold, featured as the new Amolek.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw pashkevillim a while back (provoked by I don&#8217;t know what) warning against the terrible ill winds blowing to &#8220;take the pure yiddin out of their ghettos which kept them holy&#8221;. I get the point, but the language struck me as a little odd. I suppose the next version will have the MK&#8217;s name in bold, featured as the new Amolek.</p>
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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue should not be how to &quot;integrate chareidim into the mainstream,&quot; but rather how in integrate the hilonim into the world of Torah and Mitsvos. They might be willing to accept a role as a secular, marginalized minority who are barely tolerated. 

But realistically, the hilonim can&#039;t imagine any world but their own, and we have no part in it. It is a zero-sum game unless people like Yitzchak Herzog, who is from a very powerful zionist family that only recently went off the derekh, can find a way to convince his fellow hilonim that being second class citizens in a Jewish state would be better to having that state destroyed by their insistence on it being a hiloni state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue should not be how to &#8220;integrate chareidim into the mainstream,&#8221; but rather how in integrate the hilonim into the world of Torah and Mitsvos. They might be willing to accept a role as a secular, marginalized minority who are barely tolerated. </p>
<p>But realistically, the hilonim can&#8217;t imagine any world but their own, and we have no part in it. It is a zero-sum game unless people like Yitzchak Herzog, who is from a very powerful zionist family that only recently went off the derekh, can find a way to convince his fellow hilonim that being second class citizens in a Jewish state would be better to having that state destroyed by their insistence on it being a hiloni state.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...For me, my bottom line, as it was in the committee is that I believe everyone must serve in the IDF...&quot;

That&#039;s the bottom line. Chareidim will fall into line, or else.

On an historical note, Hezog&#039;s father was the Chief Rabbi during the time that the Chazon Ish was fighting against the drafting of ALL girls into the IDF or into National Service--&quot;Sherut Leumi.&quot; This was Ben-Gurion&#039;s plan for the &quot;Intergration&quot;--assimilation-- of Chareidi girls into his secular melting pot.

The Chazon Ish fought-off Ben-Gurion successfully, but, he specifically refused to work with Rabbi Herzon, because he was sure that the Mizrahi Chief Rabbi would yield to pressure from his party colleagues when crunch time came.

Rabbi Herzon, being a well-meaning Talmid Chochom, insisted on joining the Chazon Ish, without being invited. However, true to the Chazon Ish&#039;s farsighted prediction, when the Mizrachi Party exerted pressure on Rabbi Herzog to withdraw his support, he caved, and did a tremendous amount of damage to the effort.

With friends like this, who needs enemies!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;For me, my bottom line, as it was in the committee is that I believe everyone must serve in the IDF&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the bottom line. Chareidim will fall into line, or else.</p>
<p>On an historical note, Hezog&#8217;s father was the Chief Rabbi during the time that the Chazon Ish was fighting against the drafting of ALL girls into the IDF or into National Service&#8211;&#8221;Sherut Leumi.&#8221; This was Ben-Gurion&#8217;s plan for the &#8220;Intergration&#8221;&#8211;assimilation&#8211; of Chareidi girls into his secular melting pot.</p>
<p>The Chazon Ish fought-off Ben-Gurion successfully, but, he specifically refused to work with Rabbi Herzon, because he was sure that the Mizrahi Chief Rabbi would yield to pressure from his party colleagues when crunch time came.</p>
<p>Rabbi Herzon, being a well-meaning Talmid Chochom, insisted on joining the Chazon Ish, without being invited. However, true to the Chazon Ish&#8217;s farsighted prediction, when the Mizrachi Party exerted pressure on Rabbi Herzog to withdraw his support, he caved, and did a tremendous amount of damage to the effort.</p>
<p>With friends like this, who needs enemies!</p>
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