Comments on: Illegal Aliens a Growing Problem in Eretz Yisrael

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Tue, 22 May 2012 02:36:16 +0000

This is my third attempt at posting this comment; for some reason it doesn’t appear.

Akuperma, your facts don’t contradict #4′s facts. Yes, for centuries whatever population Eretz Yisrael had was predominantly Arabic. But that population was tiny. Hashem promised us that when we’re away from our Land it will be desolate, and no other nation will be able to thrive there, and He kept that promise. When Mark Twain visited EY he wrote that there were people only in the cities, and the country in between was empty. Only when we started coming back in large numbers did the Land wake up and become fruitful again, and able to support a large population. The “Palestinians” are almost all descended from recent immigrants, some as late as 1948. That’s why the UN manipulated the definition of “refugee” to include those who had been living there for less than two years before they left!

A few weeks ago a Hamas minister admitted on TV that most “Palestinians” are really Egyptian or Yemeni.

By: mdd

mdd — Mon, 21 May 2012 12:25:29 +0000

Akuperma, the Zionists built up the econonmy!!

By: mdd

mdd — Mon, 21 May 2012 12:24:12 +0000

Akuperma, stop your no-shayhos anti-Zionist ranting already!

By: Savlanut

Savlanut — Mon, 21 May 2012 02:06:17 +0000

#5 indeed the very large majority of the populatios has been non jewish. And has been that for a very long tim but the population as a whole was reduced to a very tiny size. The vast majority (not all) of the current Arab population you mentioned in your first comment has not been long in Israel. I am not suggesting the Jews were numerous under the crusaders, turks etc… we know very well that for instance the Ramban needed to work hard to gather a minyan in Yerushalayim.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Mon, 21 May 2012 00:29:19 +0000

#4- Every account suggests that in the period since the Crusaders did a good job reducing the numbers of Jews and non-Catholic Christians, Eretz Yisrael has been predominantly Arabic. Except for small populations, they all spoke Arabic, and most people were Muslim. Like it or not, Eretz Yisrael has been predominantly inhabited by goyim since the Romans did a bit of “ethnic cleansing” on us, and as of the last milenia or so, most of those living in Eretz Yisrael were Arab Muslims.

There were no legal objections to Jewish immigration before 1918 (though Jews from a country at war with the Ottomans had a problem, bad if you were a subject of the Czar, but good if you were a subject of one of the Kaisers). Except for some Hareidim (as we now call them), Eretz Yisrael’s economy was too messed to attract Jewish immigration even though it was open to immigration since the Muslims (albeit led by a Kurd) retook it from the Crusaders (a.k.a. “the Franks”).

By: Savlanut

Savlanut — Sun, 20 May 2012 22:54:06 +0000

#1 the vast majority of the Arabs have not lived in Eretz Israel nearly that long. Most came in the late 1800′s and early to mid 1900′s when, yes, Jewish Immigration built up the country and created employment opportunities, food and other necessities that attracted Arab immigration. Only Jewish immigration was ever limited before 1948 while arabs could come by the camel-train load. Yes there are some that were here for a long time but not most of them as you seem to say.

By: Savlanut

Savlanut — Sun, 20 May 2012 22:44:53 +0000

#2 the answer to your question is the USA and there are many in the Golden Medina that have big problems with that situation as well.

By: YECHI

YECHI — Sun, 20 May 2012 20:20:35 +0000

What kind of country allows their borders to be opened to all that wish to come.

The leadership in israel must be smoking something

All talk not action,,,,shades of 69/70CE

Nu Mosheich os on his way

By: akuperma

akuperma — Sun, 20 May 2012 20:15:26 +0000

While it might make sense to admit Christian refugees from Islam, most of the illegal aliens aren’t such persons.

We should be asking what right the zionists have to replace the Palestinian Arabs with people who have no real connection to Eretz Yisrael. Even if you ignore DNA that suggests the Palestinians have roots going back further, the Arabs have been living in Eretz Yisrael for over 1300 years. Only we, the Jewish people, have a better claim. And it should be noted that no one claims that Arabs stole from us – they took Eretz Yisrael from the Romans who were the ones who expelled us. So what right to refugees from elsewhere have to enter Eretz Yisrael, except perhaps as our guests.