Comments on: State Closes Case Against Authors of ‘Toras HaMelech’

By: Chaim Yankel

Chaim Yankel — Wed, 30 May 2012 02:51:44 +0000

Milhouse,
No one here was dancing Mah-Yofis to any poritz. The Gzeiro of Golus is from Hashem and pretending that we have a Jewish Melucha in our time is not just “dancing out of habit” as you call it, but is a crazy ecstatic dance around the Modern day Eigel: the Zionist State.
If you want to know a little more about what the existentional meaning of Klall Yisroel in Golus (which you seem to have absolutely no idea about) you are welcome to take a look for starters at Maharl Netzach Yisroel Chapter 24.

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Tue, 29 May 2012 20:18:17 +0000

#1, what kind of “frum world” doesn’t believe in the explicit halochos discussed in this sefer? This must be a new use of the word “frum”; maybe it means “frum Reform”. When will you realise that the Poritz died long ago, and you are dancing Mah-Yofis entirely out of habit? When will you stop denying parts of the Torah that were preserved throughout the times of persecution, by word of mouth if not in print?

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Tue, 29 May 2012 20:13:20 +0000

Akuperma, Israel has long ago “evolved” past the Victorian era — all the way to the era of Schenck and the Palmerston raids. This decision doesn’t change that; it’s an ad hoc decision about one case, and doesn’t do anything to remove the chilling effect the investigation has had on any similar expression. Israel remains one of the few places where teaching Torah can be against the law.

By: dovid2

dovid2 — Tue, 29 May 2012 18:44:35 +0000

Comment #1 is that of a shote.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Tue, 29 May 2012 17:01:53 +0000

1. How to pronounce Kametz and Saf are not indicative of frumkeit. Most Jewish socialists spoke with a southeastern European accent, and most Sefardi Hareidim speak Sefardi.

2. In the USA, we decided in the 19th century that expressing politically unacceptable ideas was protected speech. The Israelis should be congratulated on having evolved to the Victorian era. If someone is really fussy about having civil rights, the Middle East is really a very bad place (considering Israel is the most free country in the middle east).

By: TorasMosheEmess

TorasMosheEmess — Tue, 29 May 2012 16:57:23 +0000

Perhaps you are unaware that there are variations in pronunciation of certain letters (and vowels) within the frum world.

For example, Ashkenazim pronounce a Tav without a dagesh as an “S,” where as Sephardim (as well as those in the non-frum world)) pronounce it as a “T.” Similarly there is a difference in pronunciation of a kametz (as an “o” or an “a” respectively)

Therefore, from the standpoint of the frum Ashkenazi world, “Toras” and “rabbonim” are 100% correct

By: zionflag

zionflag — Tue, 29 May 2012 16:47:55 +0000

#1 Your view is primarily yours.

By: YW fan

YW fan — Tue, 29 May 2012 16:38:43 +0000

#1 said “Rabbanim, not rabbonim. Per above” Yesh V’yesh. people spell it differently!

By: uneeq

uneeq — Tue, 29 May 2012 16:18:11 +0000

@chassidishracist So according to you, all sfardim are not frum. Nor are their rabbanim. Unless by your thoughtless logic they’re not frum rather charedi.

I hope your mindless motzi shem ra gets deleted by the mods immediately.

By: Chaim Yankel

Chaim Yankel — Tue, 29 May 2012 16:06:41 +0000

#1 Thank you!
#3 The Ta”anach also was misused by many groups out there to give false interpretations. Today there are various sectors who are doing the same thing to our Torah Shebeal Peh to give support to an ideology that is not Torah based: Zionism!