Comments on: NY Governor Slams ‘Rabbi’ Noson Leiter For Linking Storm To Same-Gender Marriage

By: Joseph613

Joseph613 — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:43:32 +0000

Hashem’s honor is at stake. We are all living in a historic moment where we can defend k’vod shamayim and the arrogant and the ignorant who insist on posting their heretical views ought to be aware of the Torah maxim that those who cause others to sin have no share in the world to come. Rabbi Shorr of Flatbush was a passenger in the back seat of a car service, driven by a Hispanic who remarked, “Rabbi, can’t you see G-d is angry at us for the gay marriage law and that is why we are being punished with this deadly storm.” Cuomo doesn’t hold a candle to a simple, Catholic cab driver because his hubris prevents him from seeing the truth.

Same-gender marriage is not just another sin that we need to repent for. Rather it is an earth-shattering chilul Hashem that causes us all to be in grave danger. Those among us who recognize this are greatly pained by the fact that so many are devoid of this basic knowledge of Torah Judaism. May Hashem save us from the misyavnim just as He did the miracle of Chanukah. We need a lot more light to dispel the overwhelming darkness.

By: Rainus

Rainus — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 09:52:40 +0000

We do not know in what context Rabbi Leiter’s comments were made. However, if he did not explain himself clearly, I would like to try.

A tragedy occurs at different levels. It affects different groups and individuals for different reasons.

What I think Rabbi Leiter was trying to convey is that the city as a whole experienced a momentous disaster because of its support for and insufficient protest against same-gender marriage. Hashem has provided in New York the most vibrant presence of Judaism (and therefore the truth) in the USA and nevertheless, the leaders of the city did not take heed of this influence but instead chose to legalize depravity. And everyone who chooses to belong to this society at some level, Jew or gentile, has some responsibility for it and thus must suffer to some degree for this tremendous Chilul Hashem.

This is not to say that every piece of the disaster suffering was connected to this grievous error but that as a whole, every New Yorker was connected at some level to this error and needed to experience the suffering.

Rabbi Leiter must feel responsibility for his community and feels the neccesity to speak out against this grievous error. One does not need Ruach HaKodesh to point out the spiritual diseases in a community. It requires a will and seichel. The Torah requires us to soul-search in the wake of tragedy and the Rabbi of a community must soul-search not only on behalf of his own individual self, but on behalf of his community as well.

By: popa_bar_abba

popa_bar_abba — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 09:28:32 +0000

The Governor is an idiot.

He calls the statement “ignorant”, as if there is some easy way to verify that it isn’t true. Now, I haven’t the slightest idea if it is true, but I do know that there is no way at all to prove that it isn’t.

And the Governor would better serve his state by taking care of the starving and cold people in Far Rockaway and Staten Island, rather than responding to no-names’s idiotic statements.

By: Oh Vei

Oh Vei — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:59:27 +0000

I am really surprised to see comments like this in yeshiva world.i tought this kind of comments belong to a Jewish liberal anti Torah site over there I found a bunch of Comments about how stupid the man is,if anyone learned chumesh he sees this very Clearly. we need no reach hakodesh the Torah writes very clearly that a mabul comes for this so what is all this nagetive comments against him from Torah Jews

By: idachgissa

idachgissa — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:58:26 +0000

I don’t know about the timing, but we should be aware that this is a new level of perversion, not just that it’s a toeva. See Chulin 92 that Ula says that the Bnei Noach accepted thirty mitzvos, but they fulfill only three. The three are that they don’t write a ksuba for a zochor (see Rashi), they don’t weigh the flesh of the deceased in the butcher market (see two interpretations in Rashi), and they honor the Torah.

So now what’s left?

By: didibrook

didibrook — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:53:56 +0000

Rabbi Lieter chazack v’ematz. What you said was a Kidush Hashem. Not what weak minded western minded people think. Lot’s future son in laws also laughed at him and said he was an idiot. But you are raising Hashems banner! Go for it!

By: Ralphie

Ralphie — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:37:57 +0000

How sad; rabbis can’t open their mouths because politicians will condemn what they say. We just saw the Torah’s first mention of “politician” – when the “Polit” revealed to Avraham that Lot was captured in war. He urged Avraham to go save his nephew, while his true intent was for Avraham to die in war so he could then take Avraham’s wife for his own insidious desires.
That is a “politican” – a two-faced liar without shame. He’s proud to “embrace marriage equality” which the Torah forbids, and condemns “hateful rhetoric…” which is, in truer words, “morality.”

By: Jusrangers

Jusrangers — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:02:19 +0000

We learned in today’s daf (Shabbos 33b) the dangers of speaking out against the secular government. Let’s not get too confident in America just because we B”H have great rights here. Let’s remember that we are still the minority. If Jews enter the business of deciding what is and isn’t a marriage, then we open the door to Jewish wedding practices being barred in the future.

By: MDshweks

MDshweks — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:01:46 +0000

You New Yorkers think all Goyim think this comment is crazy. The truth is – even most Goyim agree. In EVERY state where Toeiva was put up for a vote by the people, it was voted down.

By: jamshid

jamshid — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:56:45 +0000

Just compare the map of the storm and the map of Gay Marriage. Its the same!

http://statesthatallowgaymarriage.com/

All this started a year ago after the Gay marriage was allowed with the historic storm.

It doesn’t takes Roach Hakodesh to understand what the connection is. Just two open eyes and one working brain.

When you make the marriage official it takes it to a different level than privately that Hashem does not tolerate it like the time of mabul.