Comments on: Chacham Ovadia Remains Awake Due to the ‘Harsh Gezeira’

By: the reason

the reason — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:14:56 +0000

To “Jewishflorida” I didn’t mean that their blood is not worth anything, most of my family is in the Army, I meant that their protection doesn’t come from the bullet proof vests they have but by the learning, and without the Torah world, their blood is not worth anything, meaning the risk is much much bigger.

By: the reason

the reason — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:10:05 +0000

To Nicejew.

a) As Rav Steinman said if you don’t vote and help getting vote it’s considered as לא תעמוד על דם רעך.
But I would think it’s common sense.
b) It says in the Shulchan Aruch that Rabbis don’t have to pay for the guards of their town, meaning they don’t have to participate in the security of their town, because they are the real security.

And please forgive my english, I forgave your ignorance!

By: akuperma

akuperma — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:20:53 +0000

#5 — Your answer is to the question as to whether the Israeli government should subsidize yeshiva bochrim? It is irrelevant to non-zionist bochrim (who “mooch” off of tsadakh from individual supports of Torah learning, primarily from the diaspora). More importantly, the current debate is whether 18 year old Jewish men should be allowed to learn Torah full time or be required to work full time for the military – financing Torah studies is not the topic of the debate.

By: RABBAIM

RABBAIM — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:03:24 +0000

Because the whole country lives off their Torah learning!
Who is “mooching”?

By: Derech HaMelech

Derech HaMelech — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 00:54:54 +0000

#1, #5 See Talmud Yerushalmi Chagigah 1:7 that starts
“…רבי יודן נשייא”

By: jewishflorida

jewishflorida — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 00:14:09 +0000

#2 “The reason”…. I’m trying to understand your quote “but the blood of the soldiers is not worth anything without the learning boys”…. How disappointing to hear that from you. American soldiers who fight for us in the US do not learn Torah, let alone Jewish, but to me their blood is worth something.

By: Ezzy

Ezzy — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:28:24 +0000

Why should “Yeshiva Bochrim” mooch off the Government for nothing? Why is that fair?

By: Nicejew

Nicejew — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:09:07 +0000

Where is either a) or b) of your answers in the Shulchan Aruch???
Please reply in proper English.

By: mayerfreund

mayerfreund — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:53:40 +0000

Please look up t’hilim perek 127

אם ה לא ישמר עיר שוא שקד שומר

It is not the army only hashem is the that gives us security. So by removing the lomdei torah you are removing the security.

By: the reason

the reason — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:14:16 +0000

Two answers:
a) It’s not alright for bohurim to give up their learning to prepare for the election but there is no choice, and it’s waisting some time to get much more, if they stay out of the army they will gain an extra three years by waisting two weeks.
b) No one said their blood is worth more, but the blood of the soldiers is not worth anything without the learning boys.
It is time to realize that the Israeli army is not what is saving us from the enemy, we saw with the war in Gaza or Lebanon, the mossad’s failures, the stupidity of the politicians, and the only reason we are still there is because of God’s miracle, and it’s not by sending learning boys to the army that you will help that!
Start thinking!