Comments on: Satmar Rebbe Shlita: Draft Demands Mesirus Nefesh

By: bsdude

bsdude — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 20:10:45 +0000

Reply to #2 if we believe spiritual protection is enough, why then do we have shomrim and hatzalah?

Besides, imagine if the US government had a draft and we told them that we fulfill our share of the burden by learning Torah. The Israeli government is secular and isn’t interested in any spiritual protection.

The fact is a very large portion of the chareidim don’t pay taxes (as they don’t work), receive financial assistance and don’t serve in the army. This would be enough to create sinah towards us even if the chilonim didn’t hate us on ideological grounds.

Therefore, it stands to reason, if you take money from the state, you shouldn’t protest, since this would only create more sinah towards the chareidim.

By: a mamin

a mamin — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 20:47:29 +0000

Dear Moderator; I was under the assumption that Mr Kornbluh is one of your writers?

Moderators Response: Kornbluh is a freelance writer, and any article written by him clearly has his name there.

By: pciment@bellsouth.net

pciment@bellsouth.net — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 19:23:30 +0000

Reply to #13. There is a time to learn and a time to fight. Klal Yisrael went out to battle against Amalek.

By: a mamin

a mamin — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:57:46 +0000

Just curious, when they first printed this story it included a picture of Reb Aaron, now it includes Reb Zalman Leib. Mr Kornbleu please make up your mind?

Moderators Response: Kornbluh? What shayichis?

By: my5cents

my5cents — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:47:30 +0000

@ 4: the arabs are also paying taxes but are not being drafted into the army. So your argument that funding for Yshivas is a separate issue then Army is not so right.

Kudos to the Satmar Rabbe for alerting the Whatsapp problem, I respect him for being so aware for what’s going on by Klal Yisroel.

By: El Maggid

El Maggid — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:39:32 +0000

RING #14—Indeed it’s YOU who’s dead wrong. The shitah was for those not learning full-time to join the IDF. Please stop spreading untruths here.

By: not anonymous

not anonymous — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:15:44 +0000

#14 Don’t know where your facts are from.

Rav Schwartzman Zt”l advised my uncle to join the IDF after he finished learning and so did Reb Chaim Shmulevitz zt”l. Perhaps you are too young to be aware of the ‘facts on the ground’.

“hardly any chareidi ever went to the army” – Is this from MK Eichler the journalist???

By: not anonymous

not anonymous — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:05:28 +0000

Satmar is Satmar, will be Satmar, thinks like Satmar and acts like Satmar.

They are Satmar oriented and challenged to understand the rest of the Charedi World (especially the non-chassidim).

By: ring

ring — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 16:44:39 +0000

#13 Halevai! That wouldn’t be a problem and neither would it be a problem if only the military is chareidi as we wouldn’t have to worry about boys coming out of the army secularized which is the only reason that Gedolim are not ready to send their boys out to the army.

Everyone does serve in one capacity or another: chareidim by learning Torah and doing mitzvos the best protection and the secular with arms.

By: ring

ring — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 16:39:42 +0000

@12 You are dead wrong. I don’t know where you get your facts from but if you were chareidi you would know that the shita of Gedolim has always been for chareidim not to go to the army even if they’re not in yeshiva and indeed hardly any chareidi ever went to the army. Some Gedolim today do not have the strength to fight for this shita so they’re willing to compromise.