Comments on: Rav Yisrael Ariel: We Must Conduct Regular Visits into the Kodesh Hakedoshim”

By: Aaron Chaim

Aaron Chaim — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 20:17:01 +0000

Gadolhadorah,
As always you denigrate kedoshei elyon and i wonder what on this site interests you and your ilk. Rav Shach’s letter on Mr Goren is well documented, it’s not hiding anywhere. Unfortunately i dont have a copy of michtavim umaamarim, but it is there.
If you do give him a title Rav, why do you not give this title to the leader of this and the past generation of the Yeshiva World??

By: Gadolhadorah

Gadolhadorah — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:55:53 +0000

To No.6 (Aron Cahaim)

You really don’t need to insult Rav Goren, Z’tl by invoking the name of Shach or attributing stuff to him that was never said). Goren was one of the great heroes of EY and his views were widely accepted. Today, big talmedei chachamim with great technical expertise on the matter like Rav Tendler, shlita, have said that its possible to go up to the kodesh ha’kdashim because we can measure exactly which areas are assur. Rabbonim will disgree on this and other matters. You can selectively invoke some who may agre with you but you show contempt for Shach and Elyashiv by engaging in abusive langauge about Rav Goren.

By: Aaron Chaim

Aaron Chaim — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:26:28 +0000

Further, Peres didn’t ask Harav Elyashiv for his opinion. The posek hador begged him as an act of hishtadlus to prevent this terrible situation from continuing.

By: Aaron Chaim

Aaron Chaim — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:24:56 +0000

TzViD
YOUR OPINION IS UTTER CHUTZPAH AND AZUS.
Show me one world renowned posek thak agrees with Mr Goren (Maran HaRav Shach writes that he is not worthy of the title Rav) and Mr Ariel.

By: EDGARHOOVER

EDGARHOOVER — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 06:11:29 +0000

The only problem is that the Dome of the Rock is NOT the holy of holies! It is probably not even within the precincts of the Har Habayit.

By: shuali

shuali — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 05:31:06 +0000

TzViD: “It must be noted that according to the Poskei Hador one is absolutely forbidden to visit the Har Habayis, and there is an Issur Kares for one that goes there.”
“Maran is quoted as explaining to the president that Halacha forbids going onto Har Habayis but today, it is more than this, it is an act that may lead to a religious war and bloodshed.”

It is clear from both these quotes that is was the opinion of “the poskei ha’dor” that it was not only an issue of security, but one of halachah as well. That having been said, preventing risks to life is also a halachic concern, and apparently these poskim did not see this as kibush, etc. I
“in your own personal decision to call who’m you favor as the ‘poskei Hador’ ” At the end of the day it every p’sak from a posek of the generation may be considered a posek HaDor. The masses acaccepted Rav Elyashev.

By: Yosey

Yosey — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 02:54:44 +0000

The Poskey Hador include Rav Elyashiv, Rav Ovdya Yosef who wrote a 12 page teshuva detailing all the views of exactly where the bais hamikdosh was on the Har Habayis and he concludes that since there is no place where everyone agrees that there was no Bais Hamikdosh Rav Ovadya Yosef says NO ONE should go anywhere on the Har Hanayis. This is NOT politics, This is Halacha. Making the Chief Rabbi of Tzahal Goren into a posek who was on par with any of the gedolim who prohibited going on Har Habayis IS politics and ludicrous!

If the Har Habayis was a piece of meat in question no Rov would allow it to be eaten! To walk on Har Habayis is irresponsible from a halachick and a political perspective.

By: TzViD

TzViD — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:14:58 +0000

First off a news site is supposed to be about delivering the News and not making opinions. The fact that you state ” that according to the Poskei Hador…” show’s the news bias and in your own personal decision to call who’m you favor as the “poskei Hador”
Secondly, he passed away and his argument was only about “security” issue and not about Halachic issue, and how convenient for Peres to “suddenly” ask him on this, why doesn’t and didn’t he ask about keeping Shabbat or Kashrut (especially when he eat treif while being away in some other country) and such? This is all politics and not Halacha.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Tue, 28 Jan 2014 23:06:03 +0000

Even if the halacha was on their side, which most gedolim would disagree on, it would be a bad idea. The Israelis are largely hilonim who regard orthodox Jews an an anachronistic nuisance, and would love to demonstrate that they have freed themselves from the yoke of Torah by cracking down on all orthodox Jews. This would give them an excuse to do so. Remember it is hiloni soldiers who would have to fight the war started by those who favor attacking the Muslims – and the hilonim already feel that religious Jews are either warmongers or shirkers (from warmongering, I didn’t claim they hilonim were consistent or logical, only that they are in power).