Comments on: VIDEO: Amsellem Has a Different Vision for the Chareidim

By: dveykus613

dveykus613 — Thu, 30 Jan 2014 06:51:08 +0000

thekid – that may be true for some, but who would become the next gadol hador if SOME masmidim weren’t staying in learning beyond 5 years? Rav Elyashiv would not have become who he was if he was working half the day…!

By: thekid66

thekid66 — Thu, 30 Jan 2014 00:55:58 +0000

I myself learnrd in Kollel for 5 years and have spoke to many very Chashuv people about the topic of working.It seems that they all agree that one must work ,the question is when.They also tell me for some reason the situtionin Israel isnt as simple.One reason is in Israel getting a Job is dependent on army service, but going to the army is a big problem because the Army holds itself to be a higher power then G-d.

By: Ben Torah

Ben Torah — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:19:00 +0000

Mr. Amsellem is no Chareidi; this supported of bus service on Shabbos in Tel Aviv is a rasha, as Chacham Ovadia Yosef declared him.

By: RabbiYoni

RabbiYoni — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:14:04 +0000

He’s absolutely right! He IS a Posek in his own right.

By: MDshweks

MDshweks — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:23:25 +0000

With all well meaning intentions – where’s the Torah sage on your side?

By: israellakewood

israellakewood — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:11:48 +0000

HE IS 100 ERCENT RIGHT

By: akuperma

akuperma — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 21:11:18 +0000

Jews have gone for years without knowing English. Absolutely no one mentioned in the Talmud knew a word of it. If you want a career within the Torah “ghetto”, English can be irrelvant (though in Israel, Arabic and Yiddish might be useful). While he talks about living in poverty, if you apply a standard based on what Jews have know traditionally through the years, and remember frum Jews don’t form their worldview from mass media, the secular world’s “poverty” seems quite middle class. If you took any frum Jew from the mid-20th century in Europe or the Muslim countries and showed them standard of living of Israeli hareidim, they might believe that meshiach had come since it would appear that the kollel people were living like kings. Those who want to “keep up with the North Tel Aviv types” generally enter career tracks that involve working with goyim and secular Jews – but frankly much can be said from avoiding hilonim. In truth, they are nasty shallow people.

Many hareidim enter professions – but its hard to do it in Israel (just like it was hard for blacks to enter professions in the USA through the mid-20th century). It isn’t unreasonable that many Jews prefer to avoid the stress of seeking a career in a hostile world.

If the Israeli were concerned about hareidim who were unemployed bums not in yeshiva, they would have a conscription policy that exempted yeshiva students.