That said,

crisisoftheweek – while my original thoughts before actually reading this article was somewhat akin to #3, once I read the article I rethought it out and changed my opinion. The truth is that in one aspect you are almost right. You stated, “Translation – The older we get, the more out of touch we seem.” I would just add two words, “Translation – The older we get, the more out of touch we seem…to them”. In other words, the problem for the next generation is that they don’t believe we understand them and what is best for them. Therefore, they don’t want to turn to us. Thus, we need to bring in people that can bridge gaps. אין דבר חדש תחת השמש. This is nothing new! That is the very reason why they brought Elimelech “Mike” Tress and others like him into Agudah!

Vasu Chulam Agudah Echas – you are right, but that is why every Dor needs their own Gedolim. I can name you countless Gedolim of our generation in which I heard with my own ears elder people say, “the Gedolim of our generation would never have done such a thing!” Yes, each Dor needs Gedolim that can relate to that Dor. Yes, it’s sad, but reality is reality. You and I can grow old together and become those old men that spoke to me saying, “the Gedolim of our generation would never have done such a thing!”. (Unfortunately, I’m already there!)

That pose is only because Ami wants to sell magazines. I know Rabbi Markowitz. He’s not like the others. He is an emmesdika Ben Torah of the highest order. He’s an ehrliche Yid who truly cares about acheinu biney Yisroel. I wish him Bracha ViHatzlacha.

In fact “appeal to authority” doesn’t impress you because, behind your mask, you reject the authority that a frum person is supposed to accept and delight in critically second-guessing the gedolim whose words guide frum people (and certainly members of the Yeshiva world).

Frankly I could care less whether your MO or shone u’pairush or anything in between, as long as it’s clear that as far as the Yeshiva world is concerned you’re emphatically chutz l’machane.

To quote a prominent frum blogger. I use a psuedoynym not to protect my identity, but to have my ideas attacked based on their merit or lack thereof and not on some appeal to authority.

I like how the first thought you had though is that I’m MO then you go right to “Shone u’peirush” seems you associate those two. It’s ok, I don’t take it personally.

My ire towards the Agudah and their mouthpieces is their terrible history protecting Jewish children. Plenty of evidence all over the web. The Markey bill being the final straw. But hey, as long as they keep attacking Open Orthodoxy, secular culture, democrat inspired foreign policy, and cozying up to the “xtian right”, you and the rest of the “Yeshiva World” will continue to support them in all their endevours.

I understand, under the circumstances, why you hide behind that silly handle and are unwilling to expose your identity. But perhaps you would be so kind as to share with us whose words you respect – if anyone’s – and would not consider “drivel”.

You’re clearly not a Yeshiva person and since this place is called “Yeshiva World” I think members deserve to know where you’re really coming from. What world do you identify with? MO? Shone u’peirush? Please let us know. [Note: I didn't say you didn't learn in Yeshiva, I said you're not a Yeshiva person.]

See we’ve changed!!!