Comments on: Yated Strongly Opposed to Tender for Chareidi Technical Yeshivos

By: RabbiYoni

RabbiYoni — Thu, 29 May 2014 22:23:37 +0000

Wonderful. The question now is: when will the Frum community of America realize that it’s equal and counterpart is NOT the Charedi community of Israel?

By: tirtza

tirtza — Thu, 29 May 2014 19:37:55 +0000

How many young men who have difficulty in applying themselves in yeshiva would benefit from such a program. Not all are cut out for 14 hrs/day sitting and pouring over a Gemara. Some of these young men, forced into such a program, will feel worthless and may even, chas v’sholem, drop out of meaningful frum life. So much better to recognize that all have different attributes and talents that can be put to use in Torah central life. I understand the fear that some have with trying anything but the well established path but the key is the administration of these programs, that they should agree with a chareidi hashgafa. If so, productive and happy young men could come out of the programs, just like some of the young men that are fulfilled by serving in chareidi units in the IDF.

By: M

Thu, 29 May 2014 16:46:43 +0000

Maybe the Yated is just trying to fulfill what the mishna states: כל שאינו מלמד את בנו אומנות, מלמדו ליסטות.

By: roshvrishon

roshvrishon — Thu, 29 May 2014 16:16:13 +0000

THe point is: WHo is behind this idea? If it’s Gedolai Yisroel it’s Kosher. if it’s the secular government we must be suspicious

By: bklynmom

bklynmom — Thu, 29 May 2014 15:50:07 +0000

Parents will make this decision depending on the needs of their children and with personal sheilos to their Rav.

If the Charedi parties and leadership do not figure out some innovation/plan/procedure/educational curriculum for talmidim who are not planning to spend their time in long-term learning they are destroying the youth and causing more situations of “shalom al yisroel”.

By: M

Thu, 29 May 2014 15:48:31 +0000

MDshweks has a good point. It is very important that the idea — even if it’s a very very good one — come not from the outside, but from people in the community itself. I think MDshweks is suggesting that the The Gedolim themselves try to work on this instead of letting outside people handle it.

I agree that it be wonderful if the Gedolei Yisroel spent some effort in trying to make this happen. The upside of their taking a role in this is that they would be able to make it happen in a way that they see fit, instead of waiting until someone else does it and then just kvetch that it’s not good.

Great point!!!

By: iamfenster

iamfenster — Thu, 29 May 2014 15:44:30 +0000

Garlic said “TG, we have other news sources and other Gedolei Yisrael Shlitas that can guide young men to being frum and yerat shamayim and make a living too”

I’m with you. I follow a different set of Gedolim.

By: iamfenster

iamfenster — Thu, 29 May 2014 15:41:28 +0000

If the Ministry of Education did not provide technical schools for haredim, the haredim would complain. But when they provide technical schools, the haredim complain that it’s an assault on Torah. There is no winning.

The Ministry of Education must provide education and training opportunities to all Israelis. That’s their job. Their job is to provide these schools.

By: yermia

yermia — Thu, 29 May 2014 15:39:06 +0000

thanks MD for your comment, so its not the message that is the issue here, in this case it’s the messenger that’s wrong, fine I wonder why Yated didn’t elaborate on that..

By: yermia

yermia — Thu, 29 May 2014 14:43:11 +0000

Yated is being printed daily in the english language I wonder how their staff and their readers accquainted that foreign language.