Comments on: Satmar Rebbe Of Kiryas Yoel: It’s Their Fault for Living in the Territories!

By: shlepper

shlepper — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:24:29 +0000

A day (or so) after the kidnapping, the Yiddish telephone news, Kol Mevaser, landed an interview with the Uncle Frankel. (It sounded like the Great Uncle, Mr. Frankel’s uncle.) Note that at the time we were all still hopeful for a positive outcome, and the interview reflected that, and it was a ‘light’ shmuz.
In the lengthy interview, Mr. Frankel details the rebbishe yichus of the family, their yichus with Satmar dynasty, their personal connection with the Satmar Rebbe’s family AND their personal private visit to the “Heilige Satmar Rebbe” [zt"l].
Whoever wants to get more insight into the relationship of these two wonderful families, PLEASE listen to Uncle Frankel in that interview! Then you will also understand from which perspective the current Satmar Rebbe of KJ spoke like that.
By the way, he spoke to his chassidim, and if not for YWN making a whole balagan, and innocently taking it out of context, we would have saved countless hours reading and writing these comments, not to mention the pain this article might have caused the Frankel family.

By: vashti_schwartz

vashti_schwartz — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 15:54:44 +0000

60, Read what the Chazon Ish has to say about talking lashan harah about a case like this. IT’s 100% muttar.

Also, to those people who state that the Frankels went to the Satmar Rebbe for advice before moving to Israel, that’s a load of hogwash.

By: zahavasdad

zahavasdad — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 11:27:55 +0000

We have all heard stories of Gedolim at Menchem aveil.

Have you ever heard of a story where the Gadol went to the Aveil during shiva and blamed them for the passing of their loved on?

By: sitandlearn

sitandlearn — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 10:06:16 +0000

Dear Lakewooder107,
I wasnt Choshed Biksheirim when i asked if YWN have a Rabbi checking their articles as its obvious they dont, this article is against halacha in every way, see Chafetz Chaim and others.
Regarding your idea that i shouldn’t log in, you are absolutely right as i enjoy to sit and learn, but once in a while i want to know what is going on with our broyhers in the world, so instead of going to CNN BBC etc full of shmutz and tuma i come somewhere i thought would be safe from those, only to realize that things aren’t amazing here either although on a different level.
Please stop spreading hatred with your website.

By: chaimavrumi

chaimavrumi — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 10:00:55 +0000

So much shtisim. The Rebbe is right. How can the parents sleep at night knowing they sent their children to learn in one of the most dangerous places for a Jew, and to allow them to hitchhike as well!? They lived in Israel proper? Surely there are enough yeahivos in Israel proper. Yes, every where is dangerous for a Yid. But where is more dangerous, random road with Arabs in the West Bank, or Bnei Brak? Point is, there are a lot safer places they could have gone.

By: shlepper

shlepper — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 04:42:10 +0000

Mr. MODERATOR! (Ar you moderate?)
Maybe I owe you an apology, but you definitely owe an apology to the readers on this.
1. I owe an apology because maybe takeh that fiery drosho back then was not in Merkaz Harav. But!….
2. You owe an apology because I am now going to quote word-for-word an article from 2008 from your competitor’s website as follows:
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Monsey , NY – This past weekend the Anti Zionist Satmar Rabbi, Rabbi Aaron Titelbaum of Kiryas Joel, NY, visited with his chasididim in Monsey NY, to raise money for new Satmar facility’s in Monsey.
In his speech, he took a few moments to recognize, and to speak about the shooting attack on the Merkaz H’Rav Yeshiva in Jerusalem, with a sad voice the Rabbi said, “the shooting is like the burning of the Beth Hamikdosh, he continued to say “although its a modern yeshiva [most likely he meant a pro Zionist philosophy] its a very sad era for klal yisreol, that in middle of torah learning an evil ‘Rotzech’ can walk in, and spray shoot torah learning Bochrim” the Rabbi said. and he raised his voice with sadness “Tzion Bemar Tivkah, Velirushilayim Titen Kolah” “ציון במר תבכה וירושלים תתן קולה”

The Rabbi extended a heartfelt condolences to the family who lost their loved ones, and wished for a speedy recovery for the many who still remain injured.
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So, Mr. Moderator, so much for YOUR view of the Satmar Rebbe and spreading what?
Anyhow, the speech is what stuck in my mind (and what counts) and I truly thought (hey it was a while ago!) that it was in Merkaz Harav (probably because they way he spoke about the bochrim in the yeshiva.) I still think he visited Merkaz Harav later but Google has too much junk for me to find this article.
If you want a link to the article I quoted I can do so.

Moderators Note: He has never – and will never ever walk into Merkaz HaRav. His “fiery” speech is not any chiddush, and is expected on ANY Jew after 8 Yeshiva bochrim are shot dead while sitting at their gemaras.

By: shlepper

shlepper — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 02:55:56 +0000

RE: The slaughter at Merkaz Harav:
Did you know that this same Satmar Rebbe VISITED Merkaz Harav back then and spoke how pained he was with the loss of ANY yid, regardless of the Torah view one may have.
His personal visit to Merkaz Harav shocked/surprised many. But he did and said what he thought was right.
In this case, the Frankels are known family to the Rebbe, and were advised against moving there from America by the late Satmar Rebbe zt”l. So, of course it hurts him.

Back to the topic, this same SATMAR Rebbe personally visited Merkaz Harav to offer condolences, which he so eloquently did.
Did YOU (anyone here) walk into Merkaz Harav to do the same?????

Moderators Note: The Satmar Rebbe never walked into Merkaz HaRav in his life. Why do you feel the need to lie? He never would even look at Rav Elyashiv ZATZAL. Know why? because he was “tziyoni”. Yes. Rav Elyashiv was a Zionist according to him. Do you know that the Levaya of Rav Elyashiv received no coverage in the Satmar Rebbes newspapers? How about 800,000 Jews at the Levaya of Chacham Ovadia, and not a word in a Satmar newspaper?

Stop trying to publish lies.

The Belzer Rebbe (also a Zionist in satmars eyes) went to visit Merkaz Harav victims in the hospital. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/15381/belzer-rebbe-shlita-visits-bochrim-injured-in-merkaz-massacre.html

By: uzbek

uzbek — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 02:10:32 +0000

Again akuperma thinks the problem lies with israeli subjugation of the arabs. Otherwise the arabs would be a peaceful bunch, its only that they are provoked by zionist aggression. When will he begin to realize that his stupid neturei karta hashkofo is inconsistent with reality? Thank g-d that only a handful of lunatics think like him. Even reb aharon didnt repeat that stupidity. He just said that its wrong to live in a mokom sakono. He may be right about that to a degree regarding certain areas that are extremely dangerous, only because the army has pulled out and exposed the yiden to the dangers. Hes wrong about zionism lemehadrin. And there is nothing wrong with living there, mitzad yishuv ho’oretz, although certain areas may be dangerous. If he wanted to caution about safety, he should have spoken of hitchiking, and not making safety a political issue.

By: Climbing

Climbing — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:05:55 +0000

After this terrible story everyone spoke about the unity. Look what this article has done, just look at some of the comments. A nation that was in the headlines as the “United Nation” should have this a few days after this story?!

By: verizon49

verizon49 — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:57:29 +0000

To #51 when Nucham Stark A”H was murdered who happened to be a chusud of this Rebe ,did the Rebe blamed HIS father?