Comments on: Jerusalem Councilman King Warns of Mayor Barkat’s Plan to Legalize Illegal Arab Construction

By: assurnet

assurnet — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 06:49:02 +0000

Toras Moshe – the problem isn’t so much ontrolling Eretz Yisrael so much as taking it over in the first place. Rov poskim hold that whether or not we were allowed to take it over, b’diavad now that we already have it we should keep it. If halacha l’maseh was really that we can’t have control over the land then why would there be two Charedi parties in knesset under the direction of the gedolei hador trying to make laws whose very essence is to assert control over Eretz Yisrael? If we had to wait till Mashiach then everyone would be chayavim to leave the government and protest the existence of the state like Satmar.

Additionally who said anything about preventing them from building on lands they own? The very fact the buildings are illegal means they didn’t have reshut to build there in the first place.

By: Toras Moshe

Toras Moshe — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:39:30 +0000

assurnet: Yidden are not allowed to control Eretz Yisroel prior to Moshiach, so we are not permitted to prevent the Arabs from building on land Arabs own.

By: assurnet

assurnet — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 17:54:42 +0000

Toras Moshe – I fail to see your point. If you see a chiloni eating treif and he refuses to eat kosher food should you buy him another ham sandwich because, hey – he’s gotta eat something. Many poskim (I don’t have a head count but maybe even a majority) hold you can’t even rent an apartment to a goy in eretz Yisrael, much less let them build one.

The Canaanim also lived in Eretz Yisrael for several centuries before we arrived yet that wasn’t a valid excuse not to toss them out. Why should it be now?

And as I said earlier, this particular neighborhood may have very well contributed more terrorists than any other in Yerushalayim. From a security point of view why on earth should we be encouraging such a place to expand?!?

By: Toras Moshe

Toras Moshe — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:04:48 +0000

assurnet: The Arabs are not moving into EY. They’ve lived there for many centuries. They are not being given a foothold. They already have long had a foothold.

By: assurnet

assurnet — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:20:25 +0000

Lior – your question should be re-worded to why any arab housing is ok. Maybe you were not aware but it’s an issur d’orita to allow non-Jews a foothold in Israel. Add to that the issue of sakanat nefesh. You may not be familiar with Jabel Mukaber but I happen to be and if you do a simple google search you’ll find a great deal of terror attacks in Jerusalem over the past few years have come from people living in this neighborhood including the Merkaz HaRav shooter and the guy who crushed somebody with his tractor this last erev Tisha b’Av

By: Lior

Lior — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:46:25 +0000

Why is it okay to retroactively legalize Jewish settler housing but not Arab housing?

By: Yaapchik

Yaapchik — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:37:10 +0000

What’s wrong with illegal arab construction – it’s the Jewish construction that’s the problem! Why don’t you get it??
President Hussein would even praise Mayor Barakat! (Only if he doesn’t know that Barakat is Jewish!) He might even sue him for taking his name! LOL