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	<title>Comments on: Williamsburg: Man Shot Dead On Bedford Ave And South 9 Street [UPDATED WITH PHOTOS BY JDN]</title>
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		<title>By: yitzyk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yitzyk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t jump on WhiteBear so quickly. Yes, technically WikiPedia defines DOA as &quot;Dead on arrival (DOA), also dead in the field and brought in dead (BID), is a term used to indicate that a patient was found to be already clinically dead upon the arrival of professional medical assistance, often in the form of first responders such as emergency medical technicians, paramedics, or police.&quot;

However, in actual usage in the News, I believe it is much more often used to describe that the patient was &#039;pronounced dead upon arrival to the Hospital&#039;. I would guess because the field people are trained to save lives and transport the victims to better care when they are unable to. Thus they are reluctant (and indeed some of them are unqualified) to pronounce the victim officially &#039;dead&#039;.

In fact, the very same Wikipedia article that I quoted, continues the definition with the following remark: &quot;In some jurisdictions, first responders must consult verbally with a physician before officially pronouncing a patient deceased, but once cardiopulmonary resuscitation is initiated, it must be continued until a physician can pronounce the patient dead.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t jump on WhiteBear so quickly. Yes, technically WikiPedia defines DOA as &#8220;Dead on arrival (DOA), also dead in the field and brought in dead (BID), is a term used to indicate that a patient was found to be already clinically dead upon the arrival of professional medical assistance, often in the form of first responders such as emergency medical technicians, paramedics, or police.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, in actual usage in the News, I believe it is much more often used to describe that the patient was &#8216;pronounced dead upon arrival to the Hospital&#8217;. I would guess because the field people are trained to save lives and transport the victims to better care when they are unable to. Thus they are reluctant (and indeed some of them are unqualified) to pronounce the victim officially &#8216;dead&#8217;.</p>
<p>In fact, the very same Wikipedia article that I quoted, continues the definition with the following remark: &#8220;In some jurisdictions, first responders must consult verbally with a physician before officially pronouncing a patient deceased, but once cardiopulmonary resuscitation is initiated, it must be continued until a physician can pronounce the patient dead.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eric55</title>
		<link>http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/304574/williamsburg-man-shot-dead-on-bedford-ave-and-south-9-street-updated-with-photos-by-jdn.html#comment-882867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eric55]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 14:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NY hows that gun control working out for you? #1 who said anything about a hospital, arrival means emergency services arrival at the scene]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NY hows that gun control working out for you? #1 who said anything about a hospital, arrival means emergency services arrival at the scene</p>
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		<title>By: yitzyk</title>
		<link>http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/304574/williamsburg-man-shot-dead-on-bedford-ave-and-south-9-street-updated-with-photos-by-jdn.html#comment-882860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yitzyk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe he was dead upon the arrival of the EMS at the scene.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he was dead upon the arrival of the EMS at the scene.</p>
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		<title>By: medic121</title>
		<link>http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/304574/williamsburg-man-shot-dead-on-bedford-ave-and-south-9-street-updated-with-photos-by-jdn.html#comment-882856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[medic121]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[White bear: your wrong on that one.  DOA upon arrival of EMS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White bear: your wrong on that one.  DOA upon arrival of EMS.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteBear</title>
		<link>http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/304574/williamsburg-man-shot-dead-on-bedford-ave-and-south-9-street-updated-with-photos-by-jdn.html#comment-882844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhiteBear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;DOA at the scene&quot;

One can&#039;t be Dead On Arrival(at a hospital)at the scene.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DOA at the scene&#8221;</p>
<p>One can&#8217;t be Dead On Arrival(at a hospital)at the scene.</p>
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