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		<title>By: Softwords</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Softwords]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#25 - first of all, just because the media picked up on this news bit does not mean that Rabbi Arush made a public announcement to the media. From my understanding he posted a notice in his Yeshiva (and perhaps on his front door) of the change. The info was meant for his tzibor only. Just because some blabbermouth decided to take it to the media doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s to blame.

Secondly, I think you should seriously contemplate whether your last statement was inappropriate. Not all thoughts should be publicized and can get you in hot water in Shamiyim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 &#8211; first of all, just because the media picked up on this news bit does not mean that Rabbi Arush made a public announcement to the media. From my understanding he posted a notice in his Yeshiva (and perhaps on his front door) of the change. The info was meant for his tzibor only. Just because some blabbermouth decided to take it to the media doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s to blame.</p>
<p>Secondly, I think you should seriously contemplate whether your last statement was inappropriate. Not all thoughts should be publicized and can get you in hot water in Shamiyim.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2015 02:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you imagine how woman who have spoken to him in the past feel now ? Yuk. This was an unnessacary announcement and he only embarrassed himself and all other Rabbanim. Another proof that Breslov is insanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine how woman who have spoken to him in the past feel now ? Yuk. This was an unnessacary announcement and he only embarrassed himself and all other Rabbanim. Another proof that Breslov is insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Softwords</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 20:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It always amazes me how so many people can make a mountain out of a mole hill.

What&#039;s wrong with a Rav saying, &quot;I no longer find myself fit to give advise to women&quot;?

Just to get my point across I&#039;ll bring in a story that I am personally aware of. There was once a defense attorney who in his early days used to accept all types of criminals as clients. At one point he took in a client who was on trial for murder (I don&#039;t know any of the details). One day the client came over the house to speak to his attorney, but he wasn&#039;t home. The attorney&#039;s wife was so frightened that she demanded from her husband to never take another murder case again.

Now, according to you &quot;Nay Sayers&quot; he had no right to decline murder cases! After all, who will defend them? Should we just allow everyone on trial for murder to just be &quot;eliminated&quot;? Why not tell his wife to get over it?!

Bottom line - no one is obligated to give &quot;kabalat Panim&quot;, especially if he is not getting paid for it and furthermore when it&#039;s not even part of his official position! In the case of Rav Arush his official position is head of the Chut Shel Chessed Institutions. Since when is he obligated to take time out from his family for activities that are neither concerning his institution, nor being paid for it? Such actions are called Chesed and chesed is not always obligatory. 

If you feel otherwise, maybe put your body were your mouth is and stop wasting time online and start getting involved with chesed organizations!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always amazes me how so many people can make a mountain out of a mole hill.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with a Rav saying, &#8220;I no longer find myself fit to give advise to women&#8221;?</p>
<p>Just to get my point across I&#8217;ll bring in a story that I am personally aware of. There was once a defense attorney who in his early days used to accept all types of criminals as clients. At one point he took in a client who was on trial for murder (I don&#8217;t know any of the details). One day the client came over the house to speak to his attorney, but he wasn&#8217;t home. The attorney&#8217;s wife was so frightened that she demanded from her husband to never take another murder case again.</p>
<p>Now, according to you &#8220;Nay Sayers&#8221; he had no right to decline murder cases! After all, who will defend them? Should we just allow everyone on trial for murder to just be &#8220;eliminated&#8221;? Why not tell his wife to get over it?!</p>
<p>Bottom line &#8211; no one is obligated to give &#8220;kabalat Panim&#8221;, especially if he is not getting paid for it and furthermore when it&#8217;s not even part of his official position! In the case of Rav Arush his official position is head of the Chut Shel Chessed Institutions. Since when is he obligated to take time out from his family for activities that are neither concerning his institution, nor being paid for it? Such actions are called Chesed and chesed is not always obligatory. </p>
<p>If you feel otherwise, maybe put your body were your mouth is and stop wasting time online and start getting involved with chesed organizations!</p>
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		<title>By: Yussel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yussel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why don&#039;t we just eliminate women from Yiddishkeit!!  Just make them disappear!!  OH...yeah...  Who will cook the Shabbos Seudah and who will clean up the house and who will work to support the kollel husband?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why don&#8217;t we just eliminate women from Yiddishkeit!!  Just make them disappear!!  OH&#8230;yeah&#8230;  Who will cook the Shabbos Seudah and who will clean up the house and who will work to support the kollel husband?</p>
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		<title>By: yye</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why can&#039;t he talk to them over the phone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t he talk to them over the phone</p>
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		<title>By: Softwords</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Softwords]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#20 - I don&#039;t think the Rav is worried about Yichud, rather I&#039;m assuming it&#039;s an inyan of hirhurim that he would like to prevent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 &#8211; I don&#8217;t think the Rav is worried about Yichud, rather I&#8217;m assuming it&#8217;s an inyan of hirhurim that he would like to prevent.</p>
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		<title>By: BarryLS1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Europe, didn&#039;t women go to the Rebbitzen, who then went to her husband to ask on the women&#039;s behalf, if it was necessary.

Not being alone with a woman is perfectly understandable, but with her husband or with another person in the room isn&#039;t Yichud.  Why is that a problem?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Europe, didn&#8217;t women go to the Rebbitzen, who then went to her husband to ask on the women&#8217;s behalf, if it was necessary.</p>
<p>Not being alone with a woman is perfectly understandable, but with her husband or with another person in the room isn&#8217;t Yichud.  Why is that a problem?</p>
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		<title>By: chilliworker2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chilliworker2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 08:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dear prg #15:
And what happens if a woman has...
then there are plenty other rabbonim who WILL see women!!!
and i don&#039;t think rav arush is a poisek, so if a woman has a sha&#039;alah, she can go to the מו&quot;ץ in her community.
Rav Harush is only doing what he thinks is right for HIMSELF... he&#039;s not setting any example, he&#039;s not telling anyone what to do...
he&#039;s just letting people know - &#039;i&#039;m not accepting woman&#039;
and ps. there are plenty rabbonim who don&#039;t see women. why are you becoming so upset.
I think the Steipler too did not see women! and neither does Rav Steinman... why don&#039;t you go out and riot against them!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear prg #15:<br />
And what happens if a woman has&#8230;<br />
then there are plenty other rabbonim who WILL see women!!!<br />
and i don&#8217;t think rav arush is a poisek, so if a woman has a sha&#8217;alah, she can go to the מו&#8221;ץ in her community.<br />
Rav Harush is only doing what he thinks is right for HIMSELF&#8230; he&#8217;s not setting any example, he&#8217;s not telling anyone what to do&#8230;<br />
he&#8217;s just letting people know &#8211; &#8216;i&#8217;m not accepting woman&#8217;<br />
and ps. there are plenty rabbonim who don&#8217;t see women. why are you becoming so upset.<br />
I think the Steipler too did not see women! and neither does Rav Steinman&#8230; why don&#8217;t you go out and riot against them!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Softwords</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Softwords]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 07:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that a reevaluation is necessary here:

1) Let&#039;s not mistakenly think that just because we are all writing anonymously here that our statements are exempt from Hashem&#039;s Mishpat. We will certainly be accountable for any unwarranted judging of others, harsh statements, and negativity even if they do not include Lashon Harah. 

2) Ain Davar Chadash Tachas HaShemesh - Rav Arush is not taking upon himself anything that has not been done by others. It is well known that Rav Chaim Kanievsky, shlita does not see women. His father would not even read petiks from women. Although I don&#039;t know for certain, but I&#039;ve never seen women by Rav Shteinman, so it is possible that he doe not accept women either. My Rav only speaks to women through his wife (in other words, a woman will need to ask her sheilot to the Rav&#039;s wife and she will ask it for her). I&#039;m sure there are many other Rabbanim in Eretz Yisrael that also don&#039;t see women as well.
It&#039;s only because we tend to sensationalize such news reports (and I don&#039;t blame YWN for this) that we get all heated up. If word went out on the streets that a certain Rav no longer accepts women, no one would get bent out of proportion. Those that go to him would just adjust to the new situation. It&#039;s not that much different than when Rav Chaim stopped accepting people at night. So you adjust. No big deal. 
  
3) Did anyone of the commentators above bother to ask their Rav, let alone a Gadol B&#039;Yisrael, if such behavior is acceptable? I&#039;m suspicious that you have not.

There are many behaviors in the area of tznius that most people today are not even aware of that Klal Yisrael practiced in earlier times. Perhaps ask your Rav or a Jewish Historian (such as Rav Berel Wine) if you are interested in finding out more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that a reevaluation is necessary here:</p>
<p>1) Let&#8217;s not mistakenly think that just because we are all writing anonymously here that our statements are exempt from Hashem&#8217;s Mishpat. We will certainly be accountable for any unwarranted judging of others, harsh statements, and negativity even if they do not include Lashon Harah. </p>
<p>2) Ain Davar Chadash Tachas HaShemesh &#8211; Rav Arush is not taking upon himself anything that has not been done by others. It is well known that Rav Chaim Kanievsky, shlita does not see women. His father would not even read petiks from women. Although I don&#8217;t know for certain, but I&#8217;ve never seen women by Rav Shteinman, so it is possible that he doe not accept women either. My Rav only speaks to women through his wife (in other words, a woman will need to ask her sheilot to the Rav&#8217;s wife and she will ask it for her). I&#8217;m sure there are many other Rabbanim in Eretz Yisrael that also don&#8217;t see women as well.<br />
It&#8217;s only because we tend to sensationalize such news reports (and I don&#8217;t blame YWN for this) that we get all heated up. If word went out on the streets that a certain Rav no longer accepts women, no one would get bent out of proportion. Those that go to him would just adjust to the new situation. It&#8217;s not that much different than when Rav Chaim stopped accepting people at night. So you adjust. No big deal. </p>
<p>3) Did anyone of the commentators above bother to ask their Rav, let alone a Gadol B&#8217;Yisrael, if such behavior is acceptable? I&#8217;m suspicious that you have not.</p>
<p>There are many behaviors in the area of tznius that most people today are not even aware of that Klal Yisrael practiced in earlier times. Perhaps ask your Rav or a Jewish Historian (such as Rav Berel Wine) if you are interested in finding out more.</p>
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		<title>By: Realisticguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. The parshah states very clearly,and I never thought about it until you all just brought it up, the 5 sisters came to moshe at &quot;at the entrance of his tent&quot; not inside then they cane in front of moshe and other rabonim(beis din so to speak) maybe we learn from Here that he is right and a rav should not meet with a woman privately and to all those bashing him Shame on you if he were to say the opposite then so would you. People like you just look for something contradictory to say and guess what it&#039;s not a negative that he comes out and says he has taavas more rabonim and rabbaim should admit that maybe then so many kids wouldn&#039;t go off the derech when they think they are doomed when they start having improper thoughts LIKE EVERY OTHER MAN BECAUSE IT&#039;S NORMAL and instead know that it is normal for them to think that way and that they should work on themselves instead of giving up because they think that they&#039;re the problem!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The parshah states very clearly,and I never thought about it until you all just brought it up, the 5 sisters came to moshe at &#8220;at the entrance of his tent&#8221; not inside then they cane in front of moshe and other rabonim(beis din so to speak) maybe we learn from Here that he is right and a rav should not meet with a woman privately and to all those bashing him Shame on you if he were to say the opposite then so would you. People like you just look for something contradictory to say and guess what it&#8217;s not a negative that he comes out and says he has taavas more rabonim and rabbaim should admit that maybe then so many kids wouldn&#8217;t go off the derech when they think they are doomed when they start having improper thoughts LIKE EVERY OTHER MAN BECAUSE IT&#8217;S NORMAL and instead know that it is normal for them to think that way and that they should work on themselves instead of giving up because they think that they&#8217;re the problem!</p>
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