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		<title>By: A600KiloBear</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BS&quot;D

Yawn. ANYTHING other than Torah, including secularism, is a&#039;z for Yidden, if not by strict definition then by its results. 

If they were spreading their shtus to Arabs, then you might have an argument, but they are spreading it to JEWS! Therefore they need to be dealt with far more firmly than the medine, itself guilty of shmad going back to the maabarot, will ever do. The hahahaharedim who are busy making us look bad every Shabbos should surround this kibbutz and keep trucks from ever getting to the stores rather than waste time demonstrating against the disruption of pagan remains.

Hindus also speak out against anti-Semitism. But Hinduism is a&#039;z plain and simple and any Yid who gets into it like the Israelis in India is a meshummad plain and simple.

As for you, Daniel, have you done what Rav Lifschitz has done to save bnos Yisroel trapped in marriages to Arabs? When you have done that, come back and tell us how little this tzaddik knows about the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BS&#8221;D</p>
<p>Yawn. ANYTHING other than Torah, including secularism, is a&#8217;z for Yidden, if not by strict definition then by its results. </p>
<p>If they were spreading their shtus to Arabs, then you might have an argument, but they are spreading it to JEWS! Therefore they need to be dealt with far more firmly than the medine, itself guilty of shmad going back to the maabarot, will ever do. The hahahaharedim who are busy making us look bad every Shabbos should surround this kibbutz and keep trucks from ever getting to the stores rather than waste time demonstrating against the disruption of pagan remains.</p>
<p>Hindus also speak out against anti-Semitism. But Hinduism is a&#8217;z plain and simple and any Yid who gets into it like the Israelis in India is a meshummad plain and simple.</p>
<p>As for you, Daniel, have you done what Rav Lifschitz has done to save bnos Yisroel trapped in marriages to Arabs? When you have done that, come back and tell us how little this tzaddik knows about the world.</p>
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		<title>By: charliehall</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 11:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lazerc,

Not only is Anthroposophy a philosophy based in Christian thought, it accepts reincarnation which is something we find in our tradition and not in Christian tradition, and its founder, Rudolf Steiner, spoke out loudly against anti-Semitism and was a bitter opponent of the Nazis at the end of his life! Neither Tosafot nor Meiri would have considered Anthroposophy to be Avodah Zara.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lazerc,</p>
<p>Not only is Anthroposophy a philosophy based in Christian thought, it accepts reincarnation which is something we find in our tradition and not in Christian tradition, and its founder, Rudolf Steiner, spoke out loudly against anti-Semitism and was a bitter opponent of the Nazis at the end of his life! Neither Tosafot nor Meiri would have considered Anthroposophy to be Avodah Zara.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Breslauer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Breslauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 08:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lifshitz should find something better to do. Antroposophy is avoda zara??

#2 - it is as much an offshoot of Christianity, as that Islam is an offshoot of Judaism.

Antroposophy is just a way of life - there is nothing &#039;avoda zara&#039; about it. I know quite well, since I have in the past known many such people. Lifshitz&#039; claims are baseless and show just how little he knows about the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lifshitz should find something better to do. Antroposophy is avoda zara??</p>
<p>#2 &#8211; it is as much an offshoot of Christianity, as that Islam is an offshoot of Judaism.</p>
<p>Antroposophy is just a way of life &#8211; there is nothing &#8216;avoda zara&#8217; about it. I know quite well, since I have in the past known many such people. Lifshitz&#8217; claims are baseless and show just how little he knows about the world.</p>
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		<title>By: juke9000</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 07:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#2 Kibbutz Harduf is involved in outreach programs targeting Jewish children to a non-jewish religion. 


Hopefully, the Edah Charadim community will pressure and possibly boycott Tnuva until they shut down or move the line.  This is a fight that is more important than dried up pagan bones and would be supported among all datim.

We should put our energies in closing down all missionary activity and forget about pagan bones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 Kibbutz Harduf is involved in outreach programs targeting Jewish children to a non-jewish religion. </p>
<p>Hopefully, the Edah Charadim community will pressure and possibly boycott Tnuva until they shut down or move the line.  This is a fight that is more important than dried up pagan bones and would be supported among all datim.</p>
<p>We should put our energies in closing down all missionary activity and forget about pagan bones.</p>
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		<title>By: A600KiloBear</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 07:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BS&quot;D

Notzrus is shituf and might as well be a&#039;z for Yidden, and Rav Lifschitz has dedicated his entire life to making sure not one Yid ends up in the hands of the mission or any other a&#039;z. Whether notzrus is a&#039;z for a ben Noach (a topic for debate but barely worth debating unless perhaps you want to use it break a notzri who believes in &quot;replacement theology&quot;) has nothing to do with Yad leAchim&#039;s purpose and aims.

And frankly this anthroposophomoric cult is plain mishegoss. It has no place in Eretz Yisroel as it is an alien cult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BS&#8221;D</p>
<p>Notzrus is shituf and might as well be a&#8217;z for Yidden, and Rav Lifschitz has dedicated his entire life to making sure not one Yid ends up in the hands of the mission or any other a&#8217;z. Whether notzrus is a&#8217;z for a ben Noach (a topic for debate but barely worth debating unless perhaps you want to use it break a notzri who believes in &#8220;replacement theology&#8221;) has nothing to do with Yad leAchim&#8217;s purpose and aims.</p>
<p>And frankly this anthroposophomoric cult is plain mishegoss. It has no place in Eretz Yisroel as it is an alien cult.</p>
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		<title>By: Baruch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baruch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Such situations are discussed in countless places in Avodah Zarah. and halachicaly there probably isn&#039;t any problem (without knowing more details) even assuming this is Avodah Zara gamur.  This is more about principle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such situations are discussed in countless places in Avodah Zarah. and halachicaly there probably isn&#8217;t any problem (without knowing more details) even assuming this is Avodah Zara gamur.  This is more about principle.</p>
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		<title>By: e2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lazarc,
  Anthroposophy is most certainly not an offshoot of xianity in the conventional sense. It is most certainly a breakoff of Blavatsky&#039;s Theosophy. Theosophy is an Eastern influenced religion. These religions have a strange racist (though not in a conventional sense) view of the universe. Any christological elements are reinterpreted within their own thought system. I read Steiner&#039;s Cosmic Memory. It&#039;s got more Star Trek (Steiner refuses to divulge details about the highly evolved life on Planet Vulcan) that xianity.
  In any case, Anthroposophy is another stream of a movement which found its way into Nazism. Steiner himself was no Nazi and indeed the Nazis were against Anthroposophy, but some of Steiner&#039;s ideas did parallel those of the Nazis. If I recall correctly, he believed that the Jews are a sort of cosmic throwback to some earlier race. They don&#039;t call for extermination, but they do call for assimilation. (Some caution here: the case can be overstated as well as understated.) 
Kudos to Yad L&#039;achim for warning us of yet another threat in the Holy Land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lazarc,<br />
  Anthroposophy is most certainly not an offshoot of xianity in the conventional sense. It is most certainly a breakoff of Blavatsky&#8217;s Theosophy. Theosophy is an Eastern influenced religion. These religions have a strange racist (though not in a conventional sense) view of the universe. Any christological elements are reinterpreted within their own thought system. I read Steiner&#8217;s Cosmic Memory. It&#8217;s got more Star Trek (Steiner refuses to divulge details about the highly evolved life on Planet Vulcan) that xianity.<br />
  In any case, Anthroposophy is another stream of a movement which found its way into Nazism. Steiner himself was no Nazi and indeed the Nazis were against Anthroposophy, but some of Steiner&#8217;s ideas did parallel those of the Nazis. If I recall correctly, he believed that the Jews are a sort of cosmic throwback to some earlier race. They don&#8217;t call for extermination, but they do call for assimilation. (Some caution here: the case can be overstated as well as understated.)<br />
Kudos to Yad L&#8217;achim for warning us of yet another threat in the Holy Land.</p>
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		<title>By: lazerc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lazerc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 04:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[unfortunately, Rabbi Lifshultz is not as knowledgeable or accurate as would need. If you google Anthroposophy you will see that it is an off shoot of Christianity, certainly not desirable in Israel, but a makolkes if it is really Avoda Zara or not.

I still think they should be banned, but not as the article suggests that &quot;R’ Lifshitz explains is avoda zara (idol worship) by every Torah definition of the word.&quot; should be re-examined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately, Rabbi Lifshultz is not as knowledgeable or accurate as would need. If you google Anthroposophy you will see that it is an off shoot of Christianity, certainly not desirable in Israel, but a makolkes if it is really Avoda Zara or not.</p>
<p>I still think they should be banned, but not as the article suggests that &#8220;R’ Lifshitz explains is avoda zara (idol worship) by every Torah definition of the word.&#8221; should be re-examined.</p>
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		<title>By: farfrumt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[farfrumt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good . we need more rabbis like him who do l&#039;shem shomayim without allot of noise- except where necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good . we need more rabbis like him who do l&#8217;shem shomayim without allot of noise- except where necessary.</p>
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