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	<title>Comments on: Emanuel Beis Yaakov Case Getting Uglier</title>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article did not specify which parites were supposed to agree with each other in the education of Haredi children.

The parties were the Beis Yaakov Chasidi vs. Yoav Lallum. Do you really expect Yoav Lallum to agree to the Beis Yaakov Chasidi rules? Do you really expect the Beis Yaakov Chasidi parents to aquiesce to Yoav Lallum, who is backed by the anti-religious activist New Israel Fund? 

Look at the NIF website and see how much funds they manage to raise under the banner of &quot;fighting for equality&quot;, but really they are raising money to give to lawyers to fight frivolous lawsuits like this. 

Like Attorney Mordecahi Bass said in his reposrt on the situation ine Emanuel, “When ethnic discrimination actually occurs, we must combat it with all our might. I express my sorrow about complaints like these – thrown in the air – that increase hatred among Israel , and are totally baseless.” 

(In 2008, Attorney Mordechai Bass was sent by Shulamit Amichai of the ministry of education to evaluate the situation in Emanuel. He stated in his report:

“I spoke to the plaintiffs and asked for one instance of parents who asked to register their daughter and was refused and they had no such case.”

“The division was not ethnic, it was religious. I am convinced that there is no ethnic discrimination.” )

I live in Emanuel, an easy target as its members are not well off financially and it is a relatively far distance to travel to, so it is an easy place to lie about. Who will come out here and really check what is happening?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article did not specify which parites were supposed to agree with each other in the education of Haredi children.</p>
<p>The parties were the Beis Yaakov Chasidi vs. Yoav Lallum. Do you really expect Yoav Lallum to agree to the Beis Yaakov Chasidi rules? Do you really expect the Beis Yaakov Chasidi parents to aquiesce to Yoav Lallum, who is backed by the anti-religious activist New Israel Fund? </p>
<p>Look at the NIF website and see how much funds they manage to raise under the banner of &#8220;fighting for equality&#8221;, but really they are raising money to give to lawyers to fight frivolous lawsuits like this. </p>
<p>Like Attorney Mordecahi Bass said in his reposrt on the situation ine Emanuel, “When ethnic discrimination actually occurs, we must combat it with all our might. I express my sorrow about complaints like these – thrown in the air – that increase hatred among Israel , and are totally baseless.” </p>
<p>(In 2008, Attorney Mordechai Bass was sent by Shulamit Amichai of the ministry of education to evaluate the situation in Emanuel. He stated in his report:</p>
<p>“I spoke to the plaintiffs and asked for one instance of parents who asked to register their daughter and was refused and they had no such case.”</p>
<p>“The division was not ethnic, it was religious. I am convinced that there is no ethnic discrimination.” )</p>
<p>I live in Emanuel, an easy target as its members are not well off financially and it is a relatively far distance to travel to, so it is an easy place to lie about. Who will come out here and really check what is happening?</p>
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		<title>By: shimen</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#1 how does &#039;deruchayai darcai noam&#039; come into this equation.maybe weshould theow away chelk chosehen mishpat and not make din torahs because &#039;deruchaya darkaei noam&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 how does &#8216;deruchayai darcai noam&#8217; come into this equation.maybe weshould theow away chelk chosehen mishpat and not make din torahs because &#8216;deruchaya darkaei noam&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: aryeh_z</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There has been a pressing need to restructure our educational system for some time. There has also been an even more pressing need to restructure the court system, especially the Supreme Cult, for even a longer time. Let us hope that both necessities will come out of this mess. 

Aryeh Zelasko
Beit Shemesh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been a pressing need to restructure our educational system for some time. There has also been an even more pressing need to restructure the court system, especially the Supreme Cult, for even a longer time. Let us hope that both necessities will come out of this mess. </p>
<p>Aryeh Zelasko<br />
Beit Shemesh</p>
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		<title>By: farfrumt</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i am sorry if my comment will offend anyone- i am just stating my opinion.i am not taking sides. i just want to say that in my opinion the chinuch atzmai of today is not the one of yesterday and i feel that if the gedolim of yesterday were here with us,(r kotler tztl for example) they would have all the chinich atzmai schools and this crisis handled according to the passuk  drecha darchi noam vchu. 

so i am not bothered by the fact that this is getting uglier and uglier.i am a talmid of rav pam. the torah is sweet and peaceful. torah learning is sweet and peaceful. if its the askonim that have allowed the situation in the schools to reach a crisis such as this, let it be written in the history books that it was them that destroyed a vital part of chareidi Judaism in israel and the gedolim will open a new one- call it beis yitzchok instead of beis yaakov maybe and in the new school system , there will be no askonim. or at least ones with yiras shomayim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am sorry if my comment will offend anyone- i am just stating my opinion.i am not taking sides. i just want to say that in my opinion the chinuch atzmai of today is not the one of yesterday and i feel that if the gedolim of yesterday were here with us,(r kotler tztl for example) they would have all the chinich atzmai schools and this crisis handled according to the passuk  drecha darchi noam vchu. </p>
<p>so i am not bothered by the fact that this is getting uglier and uglier.i am a talmid of rav pam. the torah is sweet and peaceful. torah learning is sweet and peaceful. if its the askonim that have allowed the situation in the schools to reach a crisis such as this, let it be written in the history books that it was them that destroyed a vital part of chareidi Judaism in israel and the gedolim will open a new one- call it beis yitzchok instead of beis yaakov maybe and in the new school system , there will be no askonim. or at least ones with yiras shomayim.</p>
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