Aside from the fact that one can’t make a living in today’s high-tech world without training.

It bothers me when I see meshulachim with letters saying Rachmanim bnei rachmanim please help Reb Ploni who has no parnasa. Signed, Rabbi X.

My question is, Rabbi X, why did you yourself have no rachmanus on this poor soul 20 years ago when you denied him an opportunity to get a basic education. Now you write letters???

OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS NEVER THE CASE AND THE GOVERNMENT GAVE THE RELIGIOUS MOSDOS THE ABILITY TO RUN THEIR YESHIVOS ACCORDING TO THEIR MESORAH AND CHINUCH

ARE YOU WILLING TO SELL YOUR SOUL FOR A FEW DOLLARS????

YIDEN IN ALL DOROS WERE MOSER NEFESH TO KEEP YIDISHKIET PURE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES BRING

YISGADAL VEYISKADASH SHEMAY RABA!!!!

“ASHRIECHAM SHENITFASTEM AL DIVRIE TORAH ” CHIZKU VIMTZU
WE ARE ALL STANDING STRONG WITH ALL THESE GIBORIE KOACH THAT ARE WILLING TO GO TO JAIL LMAN KVOD HASHEM VETOROSIE”!!

Furthermore, in Mishlei (I believe) it says Kol yemei oni raim. In Gemara it says Oni choshuv kmeis, and Chayav adam lelamed es bno umnus. Far be it from anyone to deprive another yid of parnasa by telling him not to get the training and education he needs. It is dinei nefashos! Will you take achrayus to support families that are starving now because the fathers never were allowed to learn the necessary subjects? If you think it doesn’t happen, please explain the steady stream of meshulachim coming from EY to so many shuls in the USA.

I would not want to be in the shoes of the ones who made up these psakim on yom hadin and hurt so many wonderful families. The Mishnah Berurah and Shulchan Oruch say one is allowed to use a telescope on Shabbos, mah li lilmod min haastrolobe (telescope) mah li min hasefer. So even on Shabbos one is allowed to learn science. So these psakim are nothing but personal chumros of people who are destroying families in the process of inventing their new brands of yiddishkeit. They are not following Shulchan Oruch. If you want to make a personal chumrah for yourself, fine. But when you convince unsuspecting tiereh yiddishe mishpachos that they are required to listen to your chumrah by telling them it is halacha, and in the process, sign them up for poverty their whole lives, you
are perverting everything the Torah stands for, which is Darchei Noam, and that means having enough money to buy food.

This would make sense if they funded their own education and school systems. To expect the government to do what you want while they foot the bill is simply crazy and ignorant.

Yes, kiruv is done by grown ups, and that is why the Chinuch Atzmai teachers and rabbonim operate kiruv schools.

At least that is how the schools are usually portrayed both in appeals to overseas donors and (lehavdil) in the secular press when they are attacked as if they were missionary schools R”L.

The problem seems to be a “Yerushalmi Chassidish” school mistakenly running under Chinuch Atzmai auspices.

Nothing wrong with Yerushalmi Chassidish schools, but the three Torah state funded networks (Chinuch Atzmai, Shas and Chabad “Reshet”) are funded by the medine as they also perform social services by taking in students from certain backgrounds and providing them with a longer school day in a violence and drug free atmosphere, which enables their often single parent to work a full day out of the home and therefore avoid poverty.

Much as I understand and support the need for a school like this one in Emanuel, it does not seem to conform to Chinuch Atzmai goals. As Emanuel is an economically depressed area, some sort of compromise has to be made as without some sort of funding the school would collapse. (In this economy it is highly unlikely that enough contributions could be raised from outside sources to keep it going).

Nevertheless, it is not a “racist” institution. It is an insular school that is meant for those who come from homes that are insular in outlook and standards.

The “racist” here is the rabble rouser who is stirring up ethnic strife.

“please read #17 again you have it all mixed up”

No I declare to ALL, that I agree to all the Rabbonim and Gedolim, and the one says that says this is Krumkiet and NOT Frumkiet (and these parents belong in jail)is KORACH! All the rest that think alike belong were KORACH (and his followers) ENDED UP

We have ONE Torah and we need to apply ourselves to it and to our Gedolim! and “THEY,& ONLY THEY” will make decisions like were and what is acceptable and how to run our Education and School system

If you feel the Begatz understands better of how to Educate your children then send your kids to a school under their leadership!