Comments on: Poll: Shas Supporters Dissatisfied with Handling of Emanuel Affair

By: lsc

lsc — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:35:53 +0000

For the record, Shas has its own school system – Ma’ayan Hatorah. How many Ashkenazim are in those schools? Shas doesn’t want Sephardim going to the Ashkenazi schools.
Anyway, there was no discrimination in this case. In fact 6 of the 9 women being sent to jail are Sephardim!

By: TorahJew18

TorahJew18 — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:45:22 +0000

To doneel,
If you read the following article #9 by 1565 in the same page that you bookmarked, it will show you a more accurate account of what’s really going on. Unfortunatelly there have been too much disinformation from the charedi camp and too much spinning the news.

By: doneel

doneel — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:08:50 +0000

TorahJew18 says – There was no proof of discrimination in the case, please see comment #8 at this yeshiva world post http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=63293

By: mw13

mw13 — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:36:17 +0000

YWN Editor – Thank you for keeping this site worthy of its name.

#17 – “but I do not agree with their position of making these people heroes,knowing that their actions were not correct.”
Who are you to disagree with the united Gedoli Yisroel?! Who do you think you are that you have a right to disagree with these giants?! It was people with your disgusting attitude who we read about in two week’s ago parsha, who fought with Moshe Rabbainu and were swallowed by the ground. But we will follow the Gedolim wherever they lead us.

“supporting racial segregation between Jews is not the Torah way no matter how gadol hador they might be.”
First of all, no Gadol has ever come out for racism. (They have simply said that we will not let the Israeli High Court tell us which schools to send our children to. Would you want the secular anti-religious Israeli High Court deciding where your kids go to school?)
But, if the Gedolim had said that racial segregation is the way to go, then that is what we would do. The Gedolim tell us what is correct, and what they say is the final and absolute truth. If what the Gedolim say goes against your sense of ethics, then the problem lies with your “ethics”, not with the Gedolim. As Irving M Bunim says in Ethics of the Fathers: How foolish is he who puts his measuring stick in the river and concludes that the stick has grown or shrunk!! (paraphrased) The Torah, as interpreted by the Gedolim, is the absolute, God-given truth. If the lessons of the Torah don’t match those of society, the problem is with the society.

“is not the Torah way no matter how gadol hador they might be”
The Gedolim tell us what is the Torah way. Many have tried interpreting the Torah not like the Gedolim – Korach, the tzedookim, the christians, and the muslims, to name a few. We jews, however, follow the Gedolim. You, TorahJew18, have cruised the line. You are no longer debating segregation, whether racial or religious. You are no longer debating the extent of the Israeli Government’s involvement in Chareadi Chinuch. You are now questioning the Gedolim, a link in the unbroken chain of Gedolim that brings us back to Moshe Rabbainu. And this you cannot do. For if the Gedolim can be wrong here, then who says they can’t be wrong on something else? Like, whether or not Yushka is Moshiach? You, TorahJew18, have crossed the line.

#18 – “for you to post your note as insinuating that I mocked those Rabbis is insulting and opens for unwanted Lashon haRa, so much for a religious site.” I do not believe there is lashon hara on an anonymous screen name.

By: ir

ir — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:43:41 +0000

Dear YWN
Exactly why was such an article posted? Everyone knows that Yediot Achronot is biased against Torah Jewry, and will use any opportunity to create sinas chinam. How could you buy into this?

By: TorahJew18

TorahJew18 — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:54:19 +0000

To the editors,
Also, and for you to post your note as insinuating that I mocked those Rabbis is insulting and opens for unwanted Lashon haRa, so much for a religious site. People have freedom of speech, and you might not agree with my opinion, but that doesn’t give you the right to censor me if this is a public forum.

Moderators Note: YWN can censor anything they want on this site.

By: TorahJew18

TorahJew18 — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:48:09 +0000

To the editor,
first of all, I’m not mocking those gedolim by name and their daat haTorah, yes, they are not my gedolim and I do respect them as fellow Jews and Rabbanim, but I do not agree with their position of making these people heroes,knowing that their actions were not correct. And supporting racial segregation between Jews is not the Torah way no matter how gadol hador they might be.

By: TorahJew18

TorahJew18 — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:15:41 +0000

Editors Note: Feel free to post comments, but anything written that takes a shot a gedolei hador will not be approved, such as writing something about those “gedolim”.
We won’t allow you to use this forum to mock the daas torah of Rav Elyashiv, Rav Shteinman, Rav Wosner, Rav Kanievsky, Rav Karelitz, Rav Lefkowitz.

By: mw13

mw13 — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:57:33 +0000

#6 – “Mr Lalum is a charedi sefardic Jew, that unfortunately have been vilified by the ashkenazim for exposing all this issue.” And yet according to Harav Ovadya Yosef, Lalum has no Olam Haba. And yet the Bais DIn that he dealt with said he is a (and I quote) “liar and he cannot be trusted”.

#8 – “get you facts straight before you continue with the same lame excuse.” Instead of debating facts, you have instead resorted to childish insults. How does that help you prove your point?

#9 – “All i can say is that Moshiah did not come after the protest.” According to that logic, I guess there has never been a Kiddush Hashem in the past 2000+ years.
“Its sad that some askenazim cant agree that there is some NATURAL discrimination in almost all ashkenazi mosdos.” And its equally sad when jews accuse jews of racism due to untruthful reports in the Israeli media.

Again, I am not condoning racism. I am saying that there was no racism in Emanuel.

By: shimen

shimen — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:18:11 +0000

#12..’sefasyim yishak mayshiv devorim nechonim’