Comments on: Sefer Torah Found Abandoned On ShortLine bus

By: apushatayid

apushatayid — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:48:07 +0000

Passul or not, people dont accidently leave sifrei torah on a bus. It is not a bag or an umbrella. Nobody asked when this person got to his destination, “hey, what happened to the torah?”. The driver remembers nothing? How many people get on a Short Line bus with a sefer torah? Something doesnt add up.

By: ari

ari — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:16:43 +0000

From one who handled the Sefer Torah. The gartel was placed outside only because the Mentele was torn and kept slipping off.

By: benuri

benuri — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:48:03 +0000

THE fact that the Gartel is outside only means it’s temporary Posul. It may need a minor Tikkun

By: wellmeaning bzbody

wellmeaning bzbody — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:39:23 +0000

??????Witriol suspects it belongs to a congregation that spends the summer months in Sullivan County and may have brought with its members by bus recently.?????
Which cong transports a sefer torah via Short Line??

#1 is right the Sefer is aapparently posul.

Judging from the torn mantel and English dedication (see Hamodia. I would guess it came from one of the abondanded Shuls and was left there by a “perpertrator” who found out it was “spiritual”.

By: apushatayid

apushatayid — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:34:10 +0000

We are in the three weeks. Must you look for something negative to say? Perhaps the gartel is on the outside because it made it easier to carry on the bus keeping the mantel down?

It makes you wonder if this is really a lost sefer torah, or perhaps one that was stolen. People may forget luggage on a bus, but a sefer torah? I cant imagine someone throwing it on the bottom of the bus with all the luggage and it probably was not put up with the luggage on the inside of the bus. Also, dont heimishe yidden who go by bus use the heimishe lines, especially if traveling with a sefer torah where they could be sure that all around the sefer would be treated with the proper kavod?

By: k9hora

k9hora — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:54:31 +0000

hernor – maybe dee bist clueless. a Sefer Torah can be in excellent condition but if even a small split is found in only one of its 304,805 letters it is posul and just needs repair. this has nothing to do with its overall condition.

By: bestbubby

bestbubby — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:50:57 +0000

This truly bizzarre. No one can identify it? It doesn’t have those micro-chips in it? Oh, but of course, people always leave a Sefer Torah on buses, like umbrellas. Silly me.

BTW…could this be the Torah that was stolen from a parked car in Crown Heights last year?

By: chooochem

chooochem — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:49:19 +0000

to #1 My educated guess is that after they looked at the Sefer they put the gartel on the outside since we don;t know if its kosher.

By: zelochashuv

zelochashuv — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:25:54 +0000

HerNor, we just fasted yesterday. Don’t say he’s “clueless”. Reread the article. that’s what he said to the newspapaer. Would you prefer he describe that it is useless in its present state? The “condition” may mean that it looks like any other sefer on the outside. And where do you see in this article that the gartel is on the outside? If people jump down each other’s throats for comments, their sefer Torah is lost too.

By: Yaakov ben Avi Mori

Yaakov ben Avi Mori — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:17:02 +0000

Even if it is pasul he still has to find the owner, and I am not sure what he said contradicted its status as a pasul sefer torah other than why would they bring it with them to the country if it was pasul, perhaps the sofer was bringing it to fix