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	<title>Comments on: MK Gafni Slams High Court Says Charedim Will Stop Paying Taxes If Rulings Continue</title>
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		<title>By: charliehall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charliehall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are religious judges on the Supreme Court. Given the tremendous ability of Charedi dayanim, if some of the most promising Charedi dayanim could also be trained in secular law as is typical with MO dayanim, they would be able eventually to serve on the Israeli Supreme Court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are religious judges on the Supreme Court. Given the tremendous ability of Charedi dayanim, if some of the most promising Charedi dayanim could also be trained in secular law as is typical with MO dayanim, they would be able eventually to serve on the Israeli Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: mdd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mdd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If all of Israel were in kollel, it would collapse -- &quot;Kol Torah she ayen ima melocha...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all of Israel were in kollel, it would collapse &#8212; &#8220;Kol Torah she ayen ima melocha&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mdd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mdd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Akuperma, learning is a great thing, but it is not a job, it does not generate income and requieres outside support to continue. Whom are you kidding with &#039;the academic life&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akuperma, learning is a great thing, but it is not a job, it does not generate income and requieres outside support to continue. Whom are you kidding with &#8216;the academic life&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akuperma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#12 - almost all do go to work - do you see them sitting around street corners twiddling their thumbs?

A high percentage of hareidim prefer to work in what the goyim would call &quot;academic life&quot;. Since there is an oversupply of scholars,the pay (for teachers, graduate fellows, etc. - or as we say, rabbanim, kollel, etc.) is low. While the yeshiva industry is a major source of macroeconomic stimulus (and of foreign exchange - as it attracts a huge amount of overseas, meaning from golus, investment), it is quite unappreciated by the frei Jews (remember, they became zionists in the hope of getting away from yiddishkeit).

Frum economic decisions are rarely motivated by economics. We often avoid high paying professions if they would pose halachic issues (we also choose to live in places like New York which offer horrific housing at excessive prices).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 &#8211; almost all do go to work &#8211; do you see them sitting around street corners twiddling their thumbs?</p>
<p>A high percentage of hareidim prefer to work in what the goyim would call &#8220;academic life&#8221;. Since there is an oversupply of scholars,the pay (for teachers, graduate fellows, etc. &#8211; or as we say, rabbanim, kollel, etc.) is low. While the yeshiva industry is a major source of macroeconomic stimulus (and of foreign exchange &#8211; as it attracts a huge amount of overseas, meaning from golus, investment), it is quite unappreciated by the frei Jews (remember, they became zionists in the hope of getting away from yiddishkeit).</p>
<p>Frum economic decisions are rarely motivated by economics. We often avoid high paying professions if they would pose halachic issues (we also choose to live in places like New York which offer horrific housing at excessive prices).</p>
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		<title>By: mdd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mdd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Akuperma, without &quot;the Evil Medina&quot;, the great majority of the Israeli Chareidim would have to go to work. A Muslim government would have never paid so much money to keep the Chareidim in kollel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akuperma, without &#8220;the Evil Medina&#8221;, the great majority of the Israeli Chareidim would have to go to work. A Muslim government would have never paid so much money to keep the Chareidim in kollel.</p>
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		<title>By: joe shmoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe shmoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#6 I think you got a good point, charedim dont pay taxes. That&#039;s what the chilonim and dati leumi claim. I think now will be a good time to get the facts on the table. out of 150K families (minimum based on a mere fact of that amout turning out for a recent protest in emanual saga) noone pays taxes, they dont have stores, (sales tax) nobody works (income tax) (people with stores, people shnurring, people with businesses) yes tefillin tashmushei kedushe are only 2 examples of charedim making money from selling all over the world. and lets stop dreaming. lets just stop paying taxes 1 month and well see the true numbers not the hate influenced estimates. (opinions)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 I think you got a good point, charedim dont pay taxes. That&#8217;s what the chilonim and dati leumi claim. I think now will be a good time to get the facts on the table. out of 150K families (minimum based on a mere fact of that amout turning out for a recent protest in emanual saga) noone pays taxes, they dont have stores, (sales tax) nobody works (income tax) (people with stores, people shnurring, people with businesses) yes tefillin tashmushei kedushe are only 2 examples of charedim making money from selling all over the world. and lets stop dreaming. lets just stop paying taxes 1 month and well see the true numbers not the hate influenced estimates. (opinions)</p>
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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akuperma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#4- I did NOT say that Hareidim don&#039;t pay taxes - I said that the hilonim believe they don&#039;t, and therefore will be unintimidated by a threat to stop paying them. Frankly, most hilonim feel that &quot;we&quot; are their misfortune (yes, this is a parody of Nazi propaganda), so there is no way we can negotiate with the Hilonim. They want a place where they can be free from the yoke of Torah, and we want a Torah state to live in - there is no room for compromise.

P.S. the only threat that might intimidate the hilonim is to ally with the Muslims, but probably that isn&#039;t politically realistic at this time - however they don&#039;t object to Jews learning Torah and doing Mitsvos, and having political sovereignty is not critical for frum Jews - so there might be room to negotiate some day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4- I did NOT say that Hareidim don&#8217;t pay taxes &#8211; I said that the hilonim believe they don&#8217;t, and therefore will be unintimidated by a threat to stop paying them. Frankly, most hilonim feel that &#8220;we&#8221; are their misfortune (yes, this is a parody of Nazi propaganda), so there is no way we can negotiate with the Hilonim. They want a place where they can be free from the yoke of Torah, and we want a Torah state to live in &#8211; there is no room for compromise.</p>
<p>P.S. the only threat that might intimidate the hilonim is to ally with the Muslims, but probably that isn&#8217;t politically realistic at this time &#8211; however they don&#8217;t object to Jews learning Torah and doing Mitsvos, and having political sovereignty is not critical for frum Jews &#8211; so there might be room to negotiate some day.</p>
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		<title>By: gevaldikguy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gevaldikguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry,
What is Gafni complaining about? What did the supreme court rule about now?
BTW, in democratic countries, one does not threaten the Supreme Court. I guess Israeli culture is different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,<br />
What is Gafni complaining about? What did the supreme court rule about now?<br />
BTW, in democratic countries, one does not threaten the Supreme Court. I guess Israeli culture is different.</p>
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		<title>By: YonasonW</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YonasonW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great - the Chareidim won&#039;t pay their taxes - and the gov&#039;t will respond by not paying subsidies - Gov&#039;t wins]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great &#8211; the Chareidim won&#8217;t pay their taxes &#8211; and the gov&#8217;t will respond by not paying subsidies &#8211; Gov&#8217;t wins</p>
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		<title>By: Moose613</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moose613]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What taxes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What taxes?</p>
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