Comments on: Neo-Nazi Skinhead Couple Discover They Are JEWISH

By: mw13

mw13 — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:09:12 +0000

#8:
Nobody said anything about these people ever “murdering innocent men, women, and children”. They may have beat people up, but that is quite different from murder.

By: holtzichfest

holtzichfest — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:46:05 +0000

jewishflorida
wow take it easy relax im not sure if you know but tsuvah is possible on everything even on deeds the likes that the couple did.They only said that finding out that they were jewish triggered their change of ways there have been plenty of stories like this throughout the jewish history cmon get with the program

By: mdd

mdd — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:05:25 +0000

Aries2756, Being sorry for what one did is a required part of t’shuva and being forgiven. And what does “ve’chatasi negdi tamid” mean?

By: stzc18

stzc18 — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:38:48 +0000

#7 aries2756 – please read #8. I think he/she makes a very good point.

By: jewishflorida

jewishflorida — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:46:42 +0000

To me, the fact that they found out they are Jewish and only after realized that their past was wrong sickens me. Regardless of what religion someone is, murdering innocent men, women, and children is completely wrong. I certainly WILL hold a grudge upon them.

Its sickening that people would compare these wicked people to bal teshuvas or converts. A bal teshuva and a convert may have just not kept shabbos, or kosher, or any of the mitzvos. So what- so a bal teshuva never had the privilege to shake a lulav before in his life, but that doesn’t make him have a murderous past. These individuals tortured Jews and gentile human beings alike.

By: aries2756

aries2756 — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:53:46 +0000

stzc18 , I ask you this question, a person who does real teshuva is he supposed to believe that he is forgiven? Or is he supposed to walk around and continue to lash himself? He understands that others should hold a grudge against him and choose not to forgive him for his ignorance and stupidity, but is he supposed to kill himself or is he supposed to teach others not to be as ignorant as he once was?

By: Moose613

Moose613 — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:30:03 +0000

An amazing story. I don’t know what I would do if I were in their situation. Kol HaKovod to both of them.

By: stzc18

stzc18 — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:34:26 +0000

“Pawel, now 33, added that he does have regrets – ‘but it’s not something that I walk around and lash myself over’.
‘I feel sorry for those that I beat up but I don’t hold a grudge against myself,’ he explained. ‘The people who I hurt can hold a grudge against me.’”

I don’t know, but something about those comments bother me. While I give them credit for turning their lives around, I feel those remarks show that there is not complete remorse for what he did. True, at the time he did not know he was Jewish and he truly hated Jews. But now that he knows the truth and has embraced Judaism, he SHOULD be “lashing himself and holding a grudge against himself” Don’t get me wrong – I don’t think he should be constantly beating himself up over it, but it just seems as if he doesn’t feel any real guilt. Maybe I’m being too harsh, but it’s just a gut feeling I have. I’m curious to hear what others think about this.

By: thabo

thabo — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 05:52:35 +0000

enahak: I assume you didn’t fast or daven on Yom Kippur as you seem incapable of understanding what tshuva is all about.

please post your real name so that the rest of us know who the apikorsim on this site are so that we can stay far away from you.

go take a look at the gemora in Sanhedrin 96… you might just get a shock

By: RavBaruch

RavBaruch — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 04:06:44 +0000

I fully trust their hoshgocho.