Comments on: Sidewalk Rage Plagues New York City Streets

By: yswo

yswo — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:23:24 +0000

Very clever line. I was being serious you should consider it; as that amount of rage is not healthy.

By: Daniel Breslauer

Daniel Breslauer — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:30:54 +0000

It doesn’t matter whether a person has a Chofshi Chodshi or not. On Israeli buses, you are NOT allowed to get on via the back door (except on ‘Mehadrin’ lines). This was the 31, or the 6 – absolutely not ‘Mehadrin’ lines, at Malcha mall – absolutely not a chareidi neighborhood. Absolutely nothing justifies such behavior. For me, if a person illegally gets on a bus via the back door, in my eyes THEY ARE NOT ON THAT BUS and it is my fullest right to walk straight into them and ignore their existence.

This is of course quite different from the ‘sidewalk rage’ described in the article. In this case, the ‘chareidi’ women are disgusting criminals who make me sick. The rules are clear – you get on from the FRONT. I don’t care if you’re the Prime Ministers’ wife or the wife of the Rosh Yeshiva of Ponevitzh. Note these were completely healthy women of around 40-50 years old, who pretty much ran for the back door and immediately got on from there. The total lack of respect they show to others, who DO stand in line they way one is supposed to, is extremely insulting and highly angers me.

I never got angry at people walking slowly on a sidewalk…. Sure it’s frustrating sometimes when you get stuck behind a group of very slowly walking people and you almost can’t pass them – but I never ever felt a need to get mad at that!

By the way, #7, if you think you need to tell yourself to see someone, then yes, you may indeed want to consider doing that.

By: m in Israel

m in Israel — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:00:03 +0000

And of course there is the beautiful R’ Krohn story:

A very young Yerushalmi boy got on a crowded bus and eventually made it to the driver with his cartis to be punched. The driver looked at him and said “I already punched your card.” The boy insisted that this was not the case, but the driver was in a rush and refused to discuss it. A few minutes later he saw that the boy was crying, and asked him what was the matter. The boy tearfully explained “ani lo yachol — zeh genaivah!!!” (“I can’t do this, it’s stealing!”)

The highly moved bus driver punched his card.

May we all be zoche to be mechanach our children to understand the severity of an aveirah as this boy felt!!!

By: m in Israel

m in Israel — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:52:58 +0000

Daniel Breslauer — As mentioned earlier, most likely those women either had a “Chodshi Chofshei”, or had someone else pay, or payed later on. It is actually quite common on Israeli buses for people to get on in the back to help make loading up quicker at crowded bus stops, and then deal with payment at some point during the ride (often just passing up their cartis).

When I take inter- city buses, I always get on at the back when it’s crowded. I know that when we reach the next city and everyone is getting off it will be much more roomy, and I give the driver my cartis to punch on my way off.

Even when entering the front door, if it’s crowded the driver will often tell people to move back without paying so everyone can get on and he can drive off, and then he trusts that over the course of the ride everyone will pay — only in Israel!!

By: yehudayona

yehudayona — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:58:57 +0000

I’ll confess I have John Montone rage (or is it an allergy?)
I find him extremely annoying and immediately change stations when he’s on. I had the same reaction to Paul Harvey.

By: CONCERNED1

CONCERNED1 — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:19:37 +0000

#6 calm down most ppl. that travel and use busses in israel for any transportation like shopping/doctor/any errends/bank/ whatever bec.lots of them do not own cars so they have this pass that they pay 250 shekels a month and its unlimitted so relax and maybe see anger managment its a thearpy for ppl. like u

By: cherrybim

cherrybim — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:12:27 +0000

Let’s have the street bike lanes include the fast walkers.

By: locknload

locknload — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:08:57 +0000

#8 — Reb Yeruchum zt”l, the Mirrer mashgiach and a talmid of Kelm, spoke about this. He called it gezel.

By: frdm

frdm — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:14:39 +0000

what a stupid article grow up, learn some Middos.

By: miriamr

miriamr — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:08:44 +0000

What happened to Dan Lchaf Zcus? Many, if not most riders on the bus in Israel have an unlimited pass. And dont forget, this is Israel,where Chareidi passengers are,and can be trusted. I have lived here for most of the past 30 years,and I can attest to this. For Tznius purposes, women with a free pass will often get on in the back.