Comments on: REPORTS: Boro Park Restaurant Selling Treif

By: Y.W. Editor

Y.W. Editor — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:45:56 +0000

Please post your comments on the new post.

By: paci

paci — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:37:38 +0000

before more false rumors are posted i would just like everyone to know that this storey is false and that there was a misunderstanding about which the details will come out shortly. stay tuned as im sure yeshiva world will be breaking the true storey any moment.

By: iamsamiam

iamsamiam — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:35:57 +0000

Regardless of whether the story is true, does this restaurant have a mashgiach temidi (trained by the rav hamachshir) or does it rely solely on the proprietor and his workers? Also, does the rav hamachshir have specific standards and rules that are clear and consistently applied? For this reason, the larger and more organized kashrus organizations, which require a mashgiach temidi and have written standards and contracts with which stores must comply, can often provide better kashrus. Where I live, every meat restaurant must have a mashgiach temidi and any event catered at a shul must have an outside mashgiach.

By: mlev

mlev — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:33:44 +0000

I dont understand why u report unconfirmed news. As of 4:30 AM there has been a clarification that the report is false! it was a simple mix up from a non-jewish employee. no non-kosher meat was used in the resturaunt. now people are all riled up about this report and getting all excited over nothing. Let us not forget the effect this will have on the establishment itself!! what ever happened to being “Dan L’Kaf Z’Chus?!?!?. I am shocked and very dissapointed about a seemingly ‘religous’ news website. I’m not a rabbi, and as a good Jew, i think this site has the responsibility to report the fact that this story has been found to be false.

- According to Rabbi Moshe Babad, the restaurant’s mashgiach and spokesman for the Tartikover Rov, who provides the Shawarma King’s hechsher, “This is totally an isolated incident.”

may Hashem forgive us all for the needless Loshon Hora and possible damage we cause with events like these.

By: mamashtakah

mamashtakah — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:32:49 +0000

#12, I know you feel strongly about your point, but please stop shouting! Go to the YWN Coffee Room and read the “Rules” post, especially the one about posting in ALL CAPS.

By: baki

baki — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:31:10 +0000

onlysheker: What about the people who ate there and did none of those things?

By: ny100k

ny100k — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:29:36 +0000

The picture above is an actual picture taken last night at the scene.

The store is under the Hashgocho of the Tartikover Bais Din, not R’ Yechiel Babad, Tartikover Ruv.

By: squeak

squeak — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:22:11 +0000

Can I safely assume that since YWN reported the name of the restaurant the facts have been verified? I can assure you that I will never go into that restaurant hereafter, now that it has been named.

By: david ladimore

david ladimore — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:20:42 +0000

WHOA! JOE THE THINKER, IF HE SAW THIS TWO WEEKS AGO, HOW IN THE WORLD IS THIS NOT PUBLIC KNOLEDGE?

By: yidlmitnfidl

yidlmitnfidl — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:14:14 +0000

Being in the Kashruth field, I have a couple of observations:
Mashgichim out in the field are underpaid individuals, many of them untrained newcomers to to the frum world.
Who is now becoming a mashgiach? mainly drop outs of the economy.
Their work is totally boring, so they sometimes go to a side room for hours & play with their laptops.

The consumer assumes that the Rav Hamachshir goes on a checking tour every so often. That is totally wishful thinking.

The Kosher business has 2 components: Kosher & business. It is up to the consumer to check where the owner’s heart is: on kosher or on business.