Comments on: Gavaad Eida Charedis Refuses Meeting With Jerusalem Police Chief

By: yiddle321

yiddle321 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:30:26 +0000

Its about time that the truth about these extrem kanoim or like one wrote korach & his people will come out.
These kanoim have been around for many years and have always been harrasing & making trouble in yerushalaim demonstratng againts israel marching with the arabs kissing irans leaders you know what. Now they have taken over beit shemesh allowing themselves to harras women for the sake of modesty when they themselves are big sinners and unmodest. It is not modest to run after women calling them sick names. It is not modest to spit at little girls or women . It is not modest to throw stones . If our charedi rabbies dont put a stop to this kind of terrible actions there will be a terrible brother war . These extremists must be educated & taught that they are going againts the torah in everyway they are going againts the biggest klal in the torah wich is ahavas Yisrael.

By: Lomdish

Lomdish — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:13:54 +0000

There is no question the police is biased, we see it again and again, a charedi’s word against a secular’s is null.. They treat Charedim as second class, the secular are violent towards the charedim in Beth Shemesh for years, nothing was ever done!

By: HaLeiVi

HaLeiVi — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:51:51 +0000

What does he have to do with those guys in Beit Shemesh? They don’t listen to anyone. They consider him too moderate.

The group in Beit Shemesh is known as an outcast. The ever-hungry Israeli media, always looking for a good smear on Chareidim — especially because of the Mehadrin bus — searched and found this place.

For years, all types of people have visited Mea She’arim. In fact, it is mostly a modern crowd that you find there. Now they got their man! They found someone who’ll tell them on TV whatever they wanted to hear him say.

By: straightshooter

straightshooter — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:25:31 +0000

Israel needs a jobs program. If you are arrested by a demonstration you will have to (gasp!) work 40 hours for the next 40 weeks.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:28:02 +0000

He is the de facto leader of the non-zionist community, which predates the state by many years. He is right to refuse to see a relatively low level (local police official) who views such a meeting as a way to boost his own career but showing “he can put those hareidim in their place”, while being willing to meet with people involved in actual police work in the area. Someone of equal rank would be the President or Prime Minister, not a low level local official.

Realistically, it is highly unlikely that the Eidis Hareidus has any control over what a few individuals due, probably on their own rather than at the behest of some Rebbe or Rav. And, if the Eidis ever tried to use force to maintain order the government would promptly object (the ban on armed citizens patrol goes back to the Brits, who feared rebellion and for good reason).

By: crazykanoiy

crazykanoiy — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:04:00 +0000

If the Gavaad is really concerned about the negative image of Chareidim in the media he should use his power to lead and guide his tzibur away from violent ways.

He has not been forcefully been mocheh against the violence now nor has he forcefully been mocheh in the past.

One way to stop violence is to tone down rhetoric. Calling those whom he disagrees with “misyavnim” does not aid the cause of yideshkeit.

By: Y_dont_U_research_b4_speaking

Y_dont_U_research_b4_speaking — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:02:33 +0000

SO the Gavaad is going to bury is head in the ground and hope that either a neis will make it all go away or the public will get tired of the whole story!

shrewd PR — just as shrewd, might I say, as the PR brilliance that got the entire charedi community embroiled in all of this to begin with.

By: cantoresq

cantoresq — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:59:27 +0000

Well if the Gaavad won’t cooperate, the police should do what they deem fit, including the use of force. When R. Weiss protests it, he can be reminded of his stance when offered something of a olive branch.

By: rebbenachman

rebbenachman — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:58:22 +0000

The Chanukah miracle compared to calling a woman (words removed) on a bus? or spitting on an 8 year old girl. (words removed)

By: WIY

WIY — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:58:00 +0000

“Rav Weiss stated if the police chief wishes to calm the situation, he possesses all the tools to accomplish this,”

It sounds like the Rav feels like he has no power over these people and he knows that the only way to stop the violence is if the police toughen their stance and start arresting anyone who gets physical.