Comments on: Israel: New Hashgacha in Town – Badatz Orot

By: Loyal Jew

Loyal Jew — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 07:17:41 +0000

No, Mr.(I hope not Mrs.) Krulwich. I do think the people behind this hold by loopholes on army service, going to college, heter mechira, new prayers in the davening, tznius, “independence day” etc etc. They should start by correcting these and not by launching a “new and improved” hechsher.

By: Nechomah

Nechomah — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 06:32:01 +0000

Aren’t there different shittos as far as Sephardim and Ashkenazim in kashrus. Why would Ashkenzaim who are mapkid on Eida start having food with Sephardishe kashrus? I’m not saying this to put down Sephardim (my parents are Sephardi and I married out, LOL). It’s just a matter of kulos/chumros that each group would keep that the other would not.

By: krulwich

krulwich — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:20:03 +0000

Loyal Jew, do you say the same thing when Rav Rubin leaves Rabbanut Rechovot Mehadrin to form Badatz Mehadrin, or when Rav Machpud leaves Neve Tzion to form Badatz Yoreh Deah, or when She’eris forms out of concern about Rav Landa, or when Belz forms because of disagreement with the Eida, or any of the other examples of people starting their own kashrus organizations?

By: Loyal Jew

Loyal Jew — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:32:39 +0000

If the MOs want kosher food, it is already available with many good hechshers. It looks like they are still trying to loophole their way out of real Yiddishkeit.

By: krulwich

krulwich — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:43:29 +0000

#8: The OU is a much more reliable supervision than plain Rabbanut. The OU is more careful about shchita, about hilchos ha’aretz, about full-time mashgichim for meat establishments (“basar ha’nis’alem min ha’ayin”), and about many other things. Note that the Rabbanut Rabbanim themselves may be much more serious Rabbonim than many OU Rabbis, since Rabbanut Smicha is so much harder to get, but they enforce lower standards in order to make kashrut cheaper and easier. There is a reason that many non-chareidi strictly religious and knowledgable Jews are careful to only eat mehadrin.

#3: The Eida Chareidis and many of their member Rabbanim have put up pashkevilim supporting Moshe Friedman, a man I personally saw curse at schoolgirls and their parents in Beit Shemesh. They also supported Naftali Heller, a man I personally saw spit at women who were standing in fully tzanua clothing on the street. They also defended the man arrested for destroying a bookstore and threatening its owner because he sold books of Rav Kook.

By: Guter yid

Guter yid — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:10:53 +0000

#5, appears you’re not too familiar with the variety of hasgachos in EY, neither with the the kosher consumer in EY, Rav Eliyahu would be a similar hashgacha to Rabbanut mehadrin, may compete with Sh’erit, agudah etc, but will not please 99% of people looking for Badatz.

By: zionflag

zionflag — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:16:30 +0000

Good idea, hope they will have eateries and take outs available too. Competition is good and Rav Eliyahu is a machmir in kashrus,

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:36:59 +0000

#7, the Israeli plain Rabbanut (not mehadrin) is at least as good as the OU. The Rabbanut mehadrin is better.

By: proud orthodox jew

proud orthodox jew — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:13:27 +0000

Something is wrong with this reporting! On the one hand you write that this Hechsher intends to compete with the top of the line Eida Hechsher, on the other hand you write that this Hechsher was made after realizing the growing discontent with the Hechsher of the Rabbinate. Anyone who would think about eating Rabbinate food isn’t mokpid to only eat Badatz or Rubin. You don’t make a hechsher that is so stringent like the Badatz because people don’t want to eat the most lenient Hechsher in the whole land! Besides the Daati Leumi crowd in general doesn’t care for such stringencies. It sounds more like this Hechsher isn’t intendent to be such a high end Hechsher, sounds like they are just trying to be a bit less then the worst!

By: jew yorker

jew yorker — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:24:55 +0000

yes, thats just what we need, more hashgachos, more politics and more things to keep us divided. face it, jews cannot handle prosperity—-whenever they have it, they fight with each other; only when attacked by an enemy outside do they unite.