Comments on: UPDATED: Matzoh Prices: Out of Control?

By: Proud of KAJ-WH TIDE

Proud of KAJ-WH TIDE — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:07:52 +0000

BE HAPPY THAT OUR GOVERMENT ALLOWS US TO BAKE AND SELL MATZOHS WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS!!!

By: jent1150

jent1150 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:07:02 +0000

#75…please.. dont scare me like that..’yetzed vais eich soin take nisht vos de redtzt”

By: avremele

avremele — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:17:27 +0000

jent1150: I never commented on the matza manufacturers of the prices of matza. It would not be appropriate for me to judge them.

My comments have only bee to those who want to tell people what their ‘tzotchei yom tov’ should be.

So, please, get off my case!!!!!

And with that I will end my participation in this discussion! I wish everyone a ‘freilichen Purim’ and a chag kosher v’sameach’.

By: jent1150

jent1150 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:46:29 +0000

to #73,#68…we dont have anymore “kioch” to repeat …what you say has nothing to do with the shmurah matzoh manufacturer so that he should give cheaper the shmureh matzoh see #64,67, 72. also, please practice “reading comprihension”. “muous chitim” doesnt pertain to the manufaturer..it means me, you, everybody should give to their wherever he belongs to or wants to give “mous chitim” and the one in charge gives it to the needy to buy tzorchai yom tov…

By: avremele

avremele — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:04:38 +0000

# 72: The point of telling over this particular story isn’t because it is “nice”.

The point is that this Adom Gadol could have handed told him milk is permissible for Arba Koisos and sent the poor man on his way. Instead he made sure that he could be mekayaim the mitzvos of Pesach in the way that was correct!

How does anyone have the right to tell someone how to be mekayaim the mitzvos of Pesach? It shouldn’t be a luxury to keep the minhagim that you grew up with in your parents home!!

What is Maos Chittim all about if not making sure that everyone has the matza thatthey need for Pesach? Maos Chttim is not a ‘hiddur mitzvha’. It is a basic minhag that is a part of Hilchos Pesach!

By: jent1150

jent1150 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:48:30 +0000

to #68..did we say he should eat machine matzoh…but if he is complaining it too expensive cant afford it in this case (see #64, 67 )doesnt go into mafkia sheurim, “why dont the rabbonim this or why dont the rabbonim that”. now i dont know if i’m right about this sevorah..but these guys who start bafalling “rabbonim this rabbonim that” didnt first meayin in halacha either. so lets go back to #68 “you cant tell some one…” but you cant tell someone who has major undertaking EG:hand matzoh to give cheaper because one has the minhug and cant afford it…. the parable you mention is from hagon hakadosh reb chaim (not sure). now again what has this parable to do with our disussion unless you just wants to mention interesting story l’chizik.. now lets not beat around the bush,(that includes our pres. ,zolzein gezunt, all these guys who start ranting rabbodnim this rabbonim that they dont mean subject on hand “tachas asher lo uvdedtu” there is the saying what is the “UNDER” laying factor that that borought you to “asher lo uvadeto” does the ranting …”ayzy apiko..hamvze talmide chachomim….” some to bigger degree some to smaller degree according how much he is influenced from eisoves avir..

By: jent1150

jent1150 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:13:09 +0000

#27..see #64,67..”the rest of the year”is about 5-6 mo..which they are also busy aranging myriad of hachons for…again if you dont know how a certain business operates dont give such bright ideas…

By: jent1150

jent1150 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:49:46 +0000

#69..yasher koach but didnt get anything…have mail on spm control so have to put your address on list

By: RagachoversAssistant

RagachoversAssistant — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:35:24 +0000

#67 jent1150

The truth is that I wrote it in a rush, thinking that it was a “Nodah B’yehudah”. But then you pointed out that it was a “Mogen Avrohom” (Siman Reish Mem Beis). Then I pointed out that the source of the “Mogen Avrohom” is a “Tzemach Tzedek – Hakadmon – 28. But you are most likely aware that appears in many Tzshuvos Seforim.

Also, you are also most likely aware of the following “Mogen Avrohom”

מגן אברהם סימן קנו
ואם שמע דין ונראה לו שהלכה כך מותר לאמרו בשם אדם גדול כי היכי דליקבלי מיניה [עירובין דף נ”א ופסחים דף קי”ב

Editors Note: Regarding your question, an answer was sent to your email address.

By: avremele

avremele — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:36:48 +0000

# 67: I apologize in advance for what I am going to say. How can you tell someone that if they can’t afford Shmurah Matza they should eat machine matza! You can’t tell someone to be mevater their minhagim!

There is a story told about a gadol in a previous generation, I don’t remember who he was. Someone came before Pesach and asked him if it was permissible to use milk for the arba koisos. This gadol went out and came back with a large amount of money for this man. He was asked why he gave so much. His answer was: if he asked about milk it means that not only doesn’t he have money for wine, he also has no money for chicken or meat. Therefore, I gave him enough money to buy everything for Pesach.

Let us all daven that we should all have enough to but whatever we need for both Purim and Pesach!