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		<title>By: BarryLS1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BarryLS1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lebidik yankel says: I was speaking in general terms, not just this specific situation.  From what i&#039;ve seen, i&#039;m appauld at the nasty, dishonest and disguating behavior by Chareidim.  They are supposed to be better than that, or should stop claiming to represent Torah.

Yeh, I know, most Chareidim are very good people, but.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lebidik yankel says: I was speaking in general terms, not just this specific situation.  From what i&#8217;ve seen, i&#8217;m appauld at the nasty, dishonest and disguating behavior by Chareidim.  They are supposed to be better than that, or should stop claiming to represent Torah.</p>
<p>Yeh, I know, most Chareidim are very good people, but&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: whoru</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whoru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 05:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you  Lechvod Shomayim #18.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you  Lechvod Shomayim #18.</p>
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		<title>By: charliehall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charliehall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 03:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure that there are many dati yeshivot that would welcome all the expellees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that there are many dati yeshivot that would welcome all the expellees.</p>
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		<title>By: onlylettuce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[onlylettuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#16 BarryLS....Alas, we are in a generation where hynotized robots have run amok. I have confidence however, there are still people like and me out there but don&#039;t necessarily post their views.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 BarryLS&#8230;.Alas, we are in a generation where hynotized robots have run amok. I have confidence however, there are still people like and me out there but don&#8217;t necessarily post their views.</p>
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		<title>By: voldemort</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[voldemort]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[since when does daas torah mean people must vote according to what the rabbonim say?  Or are we totally like the taliban now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since when does daas torah mean people must vote according to what the rabbonim say?  Or are we totally like the taliban now?</p>
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		<title>By: El Maggid</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Maggid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot; I was at Ma’amad Har Sinai.&quot;&quot;
So was I. Especially the second one, the one whose luchos and Torah remained intact unlike the first one. As I recall, there was at this most important and everlasting  maamad, no hooplah,no hullabaloo, vo videos, no kowtowing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221; I was at Ma’amad Har Sinai.&#8221;"<br />
So was I. Especially the second one, the one whose luchos and Torah remained intact unlike the first one. As I recall, there was at this most important and everlasting  maamad, no hooplah,no hullabaloo, vo videos, no kowtowing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lo Soguru</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lo Soguru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question: How is a &#039;Godol&quot; defined in our days?

It used to be about his learning yes, but also his standing with  his fellow Jews and his influence, especially  if he was able to inspire without necessarily having a mass following.It was about his  humility and empathy  for all Jews.
Seems that today it&#039;s more about how many sycophants, shleppers, troublemakers,making-themselves-important machers and various &amp; sundry nudniks are around him. 
Yup, it&#039;s Ikveseh D&#039;Moshiach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: How is a &#8216;Godol&#8221; defined in our days?</p>
<p>It used to be about his learning yes, but also his standing with  his fellow Jews and his influence, especially  if he was able to inspire without necessarily having a mass following.It was about his  humility and empathy  for all Jews.<br />
Seems that today it&#8217;s more about how many sycophants, shleppers, troublemakers,making-themselves-important machers and various &amp; sundry nudniks are around him.<br />
Yup, it&#8217;s Ikveseh D&#8217;Moshiach.</p>
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		<title>By: Hear Ye</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hear Ye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone please tell me this is all a surreal bubba -meisse that never happened..
Rabbis referred to as &quot;Gedolai Hador&quot; wanting to throw people out of a yeshiva because of politics. Posters  here explaining, defending, draying a lomdishe kupp, blah, blah .... but no one seeing this as travesty of Torah. Elections, politics, honor, sinaah, machlokes, etc. 
Am I the only one here screaming &quot; The emperor has no clothes&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone please tell me this is all a surreal bubba -meisse that never happened..<br />
Rabbis referred to as &#8220;Gedolai Hador&#8221; wanting to throw people out of a yeshiva because of politics. Posters  here explaining, defending, draying a lomdishe kupp, blah, blah &#8230;. but no one seeing this as travesty of Torah. Elections, politics, honor, sinaah, machlokes, etc.<br />
Am I the only one here screaming &#8221; The emperor has no clothes&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: verizon49</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[verizon49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To #19.let&#039;s say you have ALL the facts,any rav, rebe and chacham,that has trouble makers around them must announce in public that these trouble makers have NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.Just as Moshe Rabeinu said after the AGAL &#039;who is to Hashem come .....&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #19.let&#8217;s say you have ALL the facts,any rav, rebe and chacham,that has trouble makers around them must announce in public that these trouble makers have NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.Just as Moshe Rabeinu said after the AGAL &#8216;who is to Hashem come &#8230;..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lebidik yankel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lebidik yankel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BarryLS1: Welcome to our land! Permit me to clue you in a bit on what is happening: certain individuals, not in any way affiliated with Rabbi Shmuel Aurbach, but rather people who have been making trouble with Rabbi Shteinman for the past few years (ask around, they have a name for their group) have decided to vote against Gimmel because they do not like Gimmel. There is no great philosphical discussion here, rather rebellious youth. 

(As I heard one shout in shul &quot;Who made these the Gedolim that they title themselves Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah!? Who are they?&quot; - I&#039;d rather not repeat things, but won&#039;t I do for a landman so in the dark...)

Rabbi Chaim Kaievsky is very pained by their chutzpah. He feels that these people&#039;s decision is not legitimate. Would you consider talking to one of those &#039;charedim&#039; about what is going on before posting?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BarryLS1: Welcome to our land! Permit me to clue you in a bit on what is happening: certain individuals, not in any way affiliated with Rabbi Shmuel Aurbach, but rather people who have been making trouble with Rabbi Shteinman for the past few years (ask around, they have a name for their group) have decided to vote against Gimmel because they do not like Gimmel. There is no great philosphical discussion here, rather rebellious youth. </p>
<p>(As I heard one shout in shul &#8220;Who made these the Gedolim that they title themselves Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah!? Who are they?&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;d rather not repeat things, but won&#8217;t I do for a landman so in the dark&#8230;)</p>
<p>Rabbi Chaim Kaievsky is very pained by their chutzpah. He feels that these people&#8217;s decision is not legitimate. Would you consider talking to one of those &#8216;charedim&#8217; about what is going on before posting?</p>
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