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	<title>Comments on: MK Moses: The Admorim are Applying Pressure on State Leaders</title>
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		<title>By: twisted</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twisted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The honorable MK should remember that the Dor shel Shmad and the descent into churban began with an appeal to Rome to settle our differeces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The honorable MK should remember that the Dor shel Shmad and the descent into churban began with an appeal to Rome to settle our differeces.</p>
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		<title>By: eli boy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eli boy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 01:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey mr. akuperma what ever kind of name that is most frum jews in the usa besides chassidm vote republican so get ur facts straight!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mr. akuperma what ever kind of name that is most frum jews in the usa besides chassidm vote republican so get ur facts straight!</p>
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		<title>By: avreimi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[avreimi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 00:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What effect do people seriously think eight individuals flying as a group in First Class to New York will have on any of the ministers of the Israeli government except to make them jealous because they at best get treated to Business class?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What effect do people seriously think eight individuals flying as a group in First Class to New York will have on any of the ministers of the Israeli government except to make them jealous because they at best get treated to Business class?</p>
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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akuperma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 16:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The threat to go back to support the (nominal) Socialists is serious. 

In terms of economics, the hareidim are left wingers. Indeed, they are probably to the left of the Israeli labor party. In both America and Israel, hareidim favor liberal welfare benefits without regard to paying for them. Indeed, internally, we try to provide benefits (charity, hinuch, etc.) far beyond our means.

It&#039;s very hard to be a hawk on foreign affairs if you don&#039;t want to fight.  Remember it was the party of the settlers, Bayit Yehudi, that is responsible for the attack against the hareidim. In any event, if the pro-medinah hareidim can&#039;t stop conscription, leadership will pass to the anti-zionists (Eidah hareidis, Satmar, etc.), so even if a hareidi leader is sympathetic to the settlement enterprise, it&#039;s hardly a priority.

And since many on the left also oppose conscription, it may be easier to get Herzog to end conscription, allow for religious and conscientious objection, or at least agree on no penalties for yeshiva students who don&#039;t join the army.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The threat to go back to support the (nominal) Socialists is serious. </p>
<p>In terms of economics, the hareidim are left wingers. Indeed, they are probably to the left of the Israeli labor party. In both America and Israel, hareidim favor liberal welfare benefits without regard to paying for them. Indeed, internally, we try to provide benefits (charity, hinuch, etc.) far beyond our means.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very hard to be a hawk on foreign affairs if you don&#8217;t want to fight.  Remember it was the party of the settlers, Bayit Yehudi, that is responsible for the attack against the hareidim. In any event, if the pro-medinah hareidim can&#8217;t stop conscription, leadership will pass to the anti-zionists (Eidah hareidis, Satmar, etc.), so even if a hareidi leader is sympathetic to the settlement enterprise, it&#8217;s hardly a priority.</p>
<p>And since many on the left also oppose conscription, it may be easier to get Herzog to end conscription, allow for religious and conscientious objection, or at least agree on no penalties for yeshiva students who don&#8217;t join the army.</p>
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		<title>By: aml</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aml]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 16:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think he is delusional. Why would the politicians care if the Admorim go to the USA? Who&#039;s mind are they going to change? 

What the Admorim need to do is fire the inept politicians who got us all into this mess with their chest beating hollow threats and name calling. 

The inept politicians did this to us by picking a fight with the Daati Leumi.

It is their failure and they should pay the price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he is delusional. Why would the politicians care if the Admorim go to the USA? Who&#8217;s mind are they going to change? </p>
<p>What the Admorim need to do is fire the inept politicians who got us all into this mess with their chest beating hollow threats and name calling. </p>
<p>The inept politicians did this to us by picking a fight with the Daati Leumi.</p>
<p>It is their failure and they should pay the price.</p>
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