Comments on: Marking 15 Years Since the Establishment of Netzach Yehuda

By: ujm

ujm — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:34:18 +0000

Mrs. D: you, ma’am, clearly know nothing about the terrible spiritual dangers from pritzus and other horrible stuff in the IDF. This is well known in the IDF. It has been full of pritzus for many decades already.

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general-news/211137/hagaon-harav-bentzion-mutzafi-on-idf-service.html

Maran HaRav Shteinman Shlit”a is 100% correct. India isn’t half as bad as joining the IDF.

By: Mrs. D

Mrs. D — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 04:38:15 +0000

UJM, you, sir, clearly know nothing about India, particularly vis a vis Jewish youth, and I suspect you know only traces about the IDF and simply accept out of whole cloth whatever people with agendas tell you. Things are a lot more real and layered, and I trust that Maran HaRav Shteinman Shlit”a knows that. You are also responding to the link that Toras Moshe brought down according to his own brand new paraphrasing, which is completely out of context, which makes your comments moot anyway.

By: ujm

ujm — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:29:31 +0000

“I am sure he is aware of the spiritual pitfalls and dangers that abound throughout India.”

Rav Shteinman knows that the spiritual pitfalls and dangers throughout the IDF is greater the spiritual pitfalls and dangers that are abound throughout India.

By: Mrs. D

Mrs. D — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:04:36 +0000

Ok, it’s official, I believe I was right. I checked on the link provided by “Toras Moshe” and I can unequivocally and confidently declare that report to be nothing more than a bunch of unsubstantiated hearsay full of holes and with little to no journalistic value, not worth the “virtual” paper it is issued on. And to make matters worse, Mr Toras Moshe completely obscured and corrupted the original message and its purpose (if we are to believe that HaRav Steinman ever said what was reported); his remarks, if ever made, were directed only to this one young man, and only because he was suspected of being an agent for the media. What ever you do, Mr Toras Moshe, please keep your day job and do not attempt to go into reporting. It requires a bit of integrity. And for all gullible readers out there, let this be a lesson. It is not that hard to check out stories like this.

By: Keeper of the Keys

Keeper of the Keys — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:24:48 +0000

Really?
Rav Shteinman also backed the establishment of this unit, so either he changed his mind or someone is twisting his words…

By: Mrs. D

Mrs. D — Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:56:25 +0000

Something is a bit fishy. I am sure he is aware of the spiritual pitfalls and dangers that abound throughout India. If the purpose of avoiding the Draft even for non-learners is the danger of capitulation before influences that will persuade a bachur to dilute or lose his commitment to observance, how would going to india be an improvement?! At least in Nachal Chareidi there is supervision, separation from women, support for shmirat Shabbat and Kashrut, times allotted for davening in groups, counseling from Chaplains, provisions for religious dress and hair/beards/payot…Let there be a campaign to raise the level of support for these guys to strengthen themselves and withstand the known nisyonos while serving!

By: Toras Moshe

Toras Moshe — Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:59:04 +0000

err, Maran HaGaon HaRav Ahron Leib Shteinman shlit”a.

By: Toras Moshe

Toras Moshe — Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:58:14 +0000

Maran HaGaon HaRav Ahron Lein Shteinman shlit”a has said that even if someone is *not learning* he shouldn’t join the IDF. And if he has no way to avoid being drafted other than leaving the country, Maran HaGaon HaRav Ahron Lein Shteinman shlit”a has said it is better to run off to India (where there are virtually no Yeshivos) than to let the IDF take you in via their draft.

See:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/160906/maran-r-shteinman-tells-yeshiva-student-to-go-to-india-instead-of-idf.html