Comments on: Haaretz Report: Gedolim Protest Rabbi Tendler Visit to Har Habayis

By: yeshiva11230

yeshiva11230 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:58:54 +0000

Does anyone have this supposed link to this Haaretz story. I searched their site and found nothing. Of course YWW “broke” a story that was not hidden and did not need to be broken.

By: Avraham

Avraham — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:08:55 +0000

EXPLANATION

The Gedolei HaDor do not need my support. However, as one who has researched the various Shitos (Rabbinical opinions), the following is my simple explanation:

(a) Setting foot on the Mekom HaMikdash while a Tmei Meis is an Issur Kares (capital offense)!
(b) Lacking the Parah Adumah to purify us, we are all Safek Tmeii Meis (as a result of possibly having come into contact with a dead body, or possibly having been under the same roof with one [Tumas Ohel]).
(c) The numerous conflicting opinions regarding location of the Mekom HaMikdash render nearly the entire Har HaBayis off-limits, as a possible Mekom HaMikdash and, therefore, a Safek Issur Kares (a possible capital offense)!

By: aryehm

aryehm — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:19:04 +0000

I am very disapointed to read the shmutz that people have written and thrown at others. How is it that people who call themselves frum can feel so much at ease to write these words between Tisha bAv and Rosh Hashanah?

By: kizmo

kizmo — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:45:18 +0000

May I politefully request that we stop this thread. When the original story was posted a month ago it caaused a great deal od Sina among the posters.In fact I am bemused as to why YWN decided to post the story again.

Rabosi,Tisha Bav has just passed and Hodesh Elul is a week away lets try and prevent sina of our fellow jew and lack of Derech Eretz for a Talmidei Chachamim

By: blue shirt

blue shirt — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:15:54 +0000

To Stan the Man # 36,
You made me laugh, thank you. I am well aware of the intellectual limitations of this site and that it is highly unlikely that I will change many opinions out there. However, I am not the only one who tries, there are others. Two, if a few out there start thinking at all about these issues, that makes it worth it. There are many out there who read but don’t write in, so you never know. True, often when I read the stuff that people put out I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, both are appropriate.
Heard about Dougie’s , never been there.
Nice to meet you too.

By: sfardish613

sfardish613 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:17:05 +0000

i’m not sure what to say about this whole argument as my history and halachic knowledge are not so up to par with most of you but all i can say is that if three of the greatest poskim of our generation said not to go on har habayis,or even if any one of those three told me to do anything i would do it,no questions asked.l’mashal if a doctor said “if you continue to eat a certain food you MIGHT die”and another doctor said youll be fine.i dont think anyone would be so stiff and take a chance and only listen to the more lnient one.hey guys…..it may be a chiyuv misah beday shamayim…what are you arguing about????

By: stan the man

stan the man — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:34:20 +0000

Blue shirt #18, you are explaining well but since you are a newcomer got to let you know that people have their opinions till geihanoim will freeze over. This is not a learning site or a place for deep introspection……
Diversification and variety is great at DOUGIE’s and does not work successfully among the bloggers. Nice to meet you.

By: yoily

yoily — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:20:09 +0000

Rav Yosef Ber Soloveichik was a Talmid Chochom otzim, far above the level of the average YW reader (as another commenter rightly pointed out) and to cast aspersions on such a gadol is beyond the pale. One should learn from Rav Soloveichik himself about Kavod Hatorah and repsecting a different opinion even if one doesn’t agree with it.
Rav Yosef Ber was once offered the post of Chief Rabbi of Israel but he turned it down BECAUSE he did not want to cause any bad feeling to the Israeli branch of the Soloveitchik family- most of whom are ardently opposed to the Chief Rabbinate.

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:54:13 +0000

#22, that sign proves exactly the opposite of your claim. Goyim WERE allowed on Har Habayis, until the cheil; that’s why there was a sign at that point, to warn them not to go further. Teme’ei meis are also allowed until the cheil (and mid’oraysa they’re allowed all the way until sha’ar Nicanor). Therefore in those places that we know were outside the cheil, we are allowed to go, so long as we’ve been to the mikveh.

If the signers of the proclamation don’t know which areas are allowed, let them not go anywhere up there, but they don’t have the right to forbid it to those who believe they do know.

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:46:45 +0000

#27, by you R Yoshe Ber Soloveichik is a “professor”?

Whatever you think of either one of them, there can be no doubt that RYBS and RMF do belong in the same sentence. And one who says otherwise has no business criticising anyone for ignoring gedolei hatorah.